Tuesday, October 21, 2025

Introduction and Definition of an Alcoholic (or the more polite adopted term: a person with alcohol use disorder). Comes With an Introduction to Family Roles.

This post is mainly a link dump (i.e. full of links), but it is also a post about alcoholic family trends. 

Although the whole blog is mainly about victimizing, domestic violence, trauma from abuse, PTSD, scapegoating, bullying, abuse and rage (extreme anger), alcohol can play a role in how much someone else gets hurt, and how alcohol consumption can contribute to violence, including domestic violence, and other assorted issues like the manipulation of others, the power and control of others, fault-finding and rage. 

And in terms of family systems, the family systems can look a lot like narcissistic families. As in  narcissistic families, there is usually a golden child, and a scapegoat.

However, unlike narcissistic families, the scapegoat is usually the middle child or the youngest child (in other words, it is more decided by age than by whether a child is acting sycophantic enough). But there are also other roles, with the addict taking up one role, and others in more roles than you would see in a narcissistic family: the caretaker, the hero, the mascot, the lost child, and the enabler.

All of this keeps the family enabling addiction, and therefore enabling dysfunctional family relationships. 

In other words, the family roles enable addiction (of the addict from taking responsibility for his or her own actions, health and well being), and the addiction enables the family roles: 


Sometimes family counseling is the only way to help an alcohlic family get out of the cycle of roles which enable addiction and enable blaming and shaming of members who are not a willing participant in terms of taking responsibility for the alcoholic(s). If the family members get out of role, give up their roles, leave the family to their dysfunction, or the whole family stops enabling, there is more hope for healing from family roles (which are never just, fair or an honest way to deal with issues and problems, especially when it comes to constant blaming of a scapegoat child for the alcoholic's behaviors, constant ignoring of a lost child, constant relying on a hero child to give up their childhood to be a responsible grown up for the addict and other family members, and annointing a golden child to make the family look much better than a family in utter stress and dysfunction).

A caveat: although these roles are more likely to be given to children, they can also be given to adults. The father can become the hero, in constant rescue mode, and the mother the scapegoat because she does not want to enable the alcoholic in the family and is constantly blamed for her "outside stance" on not wanting to be shoved into an enabler. 


In this case, divorce may be the end result rather than a child estranged from the alcoholic family. 

These are also good reasons not to enable an addiction (whether it is alcohol or some other kind of addiction). 

According to Project Courage, an in-patient and out-patient service for addiction treatment,  there are many reasons to get help for mental health and behavioral reasons that are the result of addiction  (including Jekyll/Hyde behaviors, and sometimes criminal behaviors).

Overdosing puts undue stress on family members, often leading to a family with estranged and divorced members who blame each other for not saving the addict, or for letting him go to the bar, or for not finding him on time, or for not visiting him in the hospital enough, or for not taking care of himproperly, and any number of other reasons.

People with alcohol use disorder can often put significant financial burdens on family over spotty work histories, not able to get promotions because of their addiction, not able to hold employment for very long, unable to have dreams for their life beyond their addiction, feeling entitled to family money where their siblings are left out, expensive rolling rehabs, constant wrecked cars for driving while drunk, failure to launch and so many other financial issues.

They also cite these health problems for the addicted member or members of the family:

Substance use disorders are a life-long battle that can bring family members into dangerous, illegal, and unhealthy situations. The long-term health risks of substance abuse include cancer, heart disease, stroke, liver disease, risk of blood diseases, dental disease, weight loss, and necrosis of bowel tissue. 

There are actually a lot more risks to health and brain function than this article reveals, but even the two sentences above should alarm the family and the addict in terms of health, quality of life, family finances, and turning the family into an enabling cycle of more addiction and more dysfunction.

But in order to get into this topic, I thought it might be best to define what a person with "alcohol use disorder" (an alcoholic) is.

For a quick definition, I give you Google AI's version first (copied here in dark red):

An alcoholic is a person who exhibits a pattern of excessive and compulsive alcohol consumption that leads to significant negative consequences in their life, including: 

* Impaired control: Inability to stop or reduce alcohol consumption despite its harmful effects. 

* Neglect of responsibilities: Problems at work, school, or in relationships due to drinking. 

* Tolerance: Need for increasing amounts of alcohol to achieve desired effects. 

* Withdrawal symptoms: Physical and emotional discomfort when alcohol consumption is reduced or stopped. 

* Health problems: Physical ailments such as liver disease, heart disease, and cancer. 

Alcoholism is a chronic disease that can be diagnosed by a healthcare professional based on the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) criteria. It is important to note that the term "alcoholic" can be stigmatizing, and it is preferred to use more respectful language such as "person with alcohol use disorder". 

Other articles go more in depth. Here are a number of them (and I follow up with my comments below):

What is the Definition of Alcoholism - by Pinelands Recovery Center of Medford
This article includes how many people in the USA have Alcohol Use Disorder, what differentiates a "drinking problem" from an addiction to alcohol, a definition of alcoholism, and why medical help when withdrawing or quitting is necessary (alcohol withdrawal can cause seizures and even death). 

Alcoholism
- from Wikipedia
This is a pretty comprehensive article. It goes into the addictive nature of alcohol, and that it can damage all organs in the body including the brain, heart, liver, pancreas, and immune system. It can also cause cancer, especially breast cancer in women.
There are societal impacts as well, sometimes up to 6 percent of GDP for treatment of alcoholism, the damage to lives and vehicles while driving drunk, interpersonal violence while under the influence, attempted suicides and injuries from drunkenness and other issues connected to drinking.
Alcoholism tends to be caused by both environmental and genetic factors.
The article also includes why alcohol cessation should be controlled carefully, under medical care. 
The article also includes warning signs, physical effects, the psychiatric fall-out in terms of mental health issues like depression, panic disorder, anxiety, psychosis, confusion, brain disorders and dementia.
Common comorbid disorders range from PTSD, the Cluster B personality disorders, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and ADHD. 
The parts of the article I pay attention to in the interest of serving this blog are these excerpts:
... Alcohol misuse is associated with an increased risk of committing criminal offences, including child abuse, domestic violence, rape, burglary and assault.[72] ... 
... Drinking at inappropriate times and behavior caused by reduced judgment can lead to legal consequences, such as criminal charges for drunk driving[74] or public disorder, or civil penalties for tortious behavior. An alcoholic's behavior and mental impairment while drunk can profoundly affect those surrounding the user and lead to isolation from family and friends. This isolation can lead to marital conflict and divorce, or contribute to domestic violence. Alcoholism can also lead to child neglect, with subsequent lasting damage to the emotional development of children of people with alcohol use disorders.[75] For this reason, children of people with alcohol use disorders can develop a number of emotional problems. For example, they can become afraid of their parents, because of their unstable mood behaviors. They may develop shame over their inadequacy to liberate their parents from alcoholism and, as a result of this, may develop self-image problems, which can lead to depression.[76] ...
... Severe childhood trauma is also associated with a general increase in the risk of drug dependency.[86] Lack of peer and family support is associated with an increased risk of alcoholism developing.[86] Genetics and adolescence are associated with an increased sensitivity to the neurotoxic effects of chronic alcohol misuse. Cortical degeneration due to the neurotoxic effects increases impulsive behaviour, which may contribute to the development, persistence and severity of alcohol use disorders. ... 

On a personal level, I was told by a mental health practitioner that you can usually tell who has alcohol use disorder (the addiction to it and the problems associated with it) if they drink every day and it is more than one drink for women and two drinks for men. While one glass of wine in the evening with dinner is not a sign of addiction, it can be a slow sign that the person may be becoming "dependent" on it in the future. Most non-alcoholics (people without Alcohol Use Disorder) do not drink every day. Drinking only on weekends, even if a lot, is usually not indicative of Alcohol Use Disorder or an addiction to alcohol.

Also, the personality may change with drunkenness on the weekends, but otherwise stays stable throughout the week. Personality changes in those with Alcohol Use Disorder tend to change, and can change drastically, sometimes permanently, as the person becomes more addicted. The brain is trying to compensate and chronic symptoms start to show up. 

Furthermore, I was told that if a person who is drinking quite a bit more than a glass of wine at dinner every day, and is unusually aggressive or violent, it can be said that some of that aggression is likely to be attributed to the substance abuse disorder attributed to alcohol consumption. Many people with Alcohol Use Disorder become irrational and can see hostility in others when there isn't any hostility. Seeing alcohol-induced hostility can sometimes lead to violence (defensive violence, to ward off the hostility, or in this case, the illusion of hostility). 

In terms of growing up in an alcoholic family when I spent a significant time in ALANON it was pretty clear to me that a lot of alcoholic families do eventually turn into narcissistic families in a generation or two.

There can also be families with a combination of narcissistic family members, sociopathic family members and alcoholic/substance addicted members. In fact, narcissism in a family will increase risks for all of these other outcomes.

Also, as ACOA defines it, grandparents count if parents weren't alcoholics in terms of being labeled an "alcoholic family". 

And since children of alcoholics are more likely to grow up with the roles of golden child, scapegoat, etc, it will seem normal for them to put their own children in roles, even if they are not alcoholics themselves. As with the acoholic parent(s) or sibling(s) they grew up with, it is common for them to expect their children to perform "hero duties" or "lost child duties" or "enabling duties" or "take-the-blame-instead-of-me duties" (the scapegoat role) just as they saw in their own family of origin.  

When all of these personality disorders and substance addiction issues are going on in one family, it can feel like a mad-house of controllers, arguers, speech interrupters, silencers, shamers and blamers, "you must ---" dominators, peppering so much conversation with unsolicited advice, lots of instability, suspicions, walking on eggshells, ultra forms of gaslighting, ultra forms of fawning and rebelling, usually some crime, jockeying to get attention or jockeying to stay invisible lest the shame/rage bombs fall, verbal and emotional abuse, family get-togethers with lots of alcohol or illicit drugs on the sidelines, and wondering whether to get out of dodge or "go along to get along", or whether to skip family functions altogether. What ever you do, it can feel like "trouble", like nothing is truly working, as work you must, since membership and approval in these kinds of families is tentative.

Anxiety levels can be high for most family members and that is never okay, or healthy, for anyone. 

Each family member usually makes a decision as to what they are going to do with these toxic issues. And guess what? A lot of their decisions will fall into line as to what role they were thrust in. Scapegoats will usually leave the family first. They almost always do in most alcoholic, narcissistic and sociopathic families. Lost children will tend to "drift away" either psychologically (dissociating from family dynamics, remaining ultra-quiet, appearing to be most interested in anything but the family) or drifting away from the family itself. 

Also, alcoholics can be scapegoats too. For instance, let's say a father is a functional alcoholic with a serious drinking problem that keeps eroding his health and his ability to manage his emotions.  However, because he's the bread winner, he is enabled. However, the family also has a scapegoat son who they blame for all of the problems in the family, especially since the son is the only one who dares to talk about his father's alcoholism. In alcoholic families you are not supposed to talk about the "elephant in the room"; you are supposed to make life easier by enabling instead. 

Anyway, since the son is picked on so relentlessly, he becomes traumatized and deals with the trauma by drinking (just as his father has). In fact, he is accused of being "just like your father! You have something coming to you if you think we're going to take care of two alcoholics!" so they throw the son out of the family. 

He has been taught by example to get help and attention by being an alcoholic. And by the way, most scapegoats are treated with this kind of incredible hypocisy.

In terms of the hypocrisies:
In narcissistic families, criticizing, insulting, derisive comments, gossiping, calling others crazy, and  talking "trash" about family members and outsiders is the norm, but the scapegoat isn't allowed to do that, or even complain once about any of it or risk being shunned. "How dare you!!" is the reaction.

In alcoholic families, full time enabling of one alcoloholic family member is allowed, particularly if his presence is seen as "absolutely necessary", while not even showing concern, respect, or politeness for an alcoholic scapegoat child, teenager or young adult is common. In fact, an alcoholic scapegoat is blamed for everything that is wrong with the father's drinking and the family's burdens, and the scapegoat's pleas for help are ignored and largely not considered or allowed. 

I'd say this family dynamic with scapegoating is "a much bigger elephant in the room" than any primary alcoholic. 

So I will be discussing issues like this as I expand this blog to talk about the role of addiction in terms of abuse and toxic roles.  

FURTHER READING

Living with a High-Functioning Alcoholic: Signs and Support - by The Recovery Village (editor Melissa Carmona), medically reviewed by Dr. Jessica Pyhtila, PharmD for The Recovery Village

Alcohol Use Disorder (Symptoms and Causes) - by the Mayo Clinic

Understanding Alcohol Use Disorder - by NIH (National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism)

Recognizing the Most Common Characteristics of an Alcoholic - by Dr. Richard Crabbe for Free by the Sea, Sunset View Drug and Alcohol Recovery Center

Neuroscience: The Brain in Addiction and Recovery - by NIH (National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism)

The Cycle of Alcohol Addiction - by NIH (National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism)

How can you reduce or quit alcohol? - Australian Government / Department of Health, Disability and Ageing

Treatment (alcohol misuse) - NHS (UK website)
article discusses Disulfiram, as well as other drugs, as an aid to keep you from relapsing

alcohol use disorder relapse rates - Google AI and Google Search

Enabling Behaviors - University of Pennsylvania Health System, Stairway to Recovery

The Five Most Common Trademarks of Codependent and Enabling Relationships
Do you enable your loved one? Here's the difference between enabling and support.
- Hazelden Betty Ford Center

How to cope with a family member’s problem drinking - by HSE (Irish website)
excerpt:
When the situation is very difficult, it can be hard to imagine a different life. But change is possible, for you and the person drinking.
     There are ways to cope better when someone close to you is drinking in a harmful way. Building your coping skills and asking for help will make a difference. ... 

Living with an Alcoholic Spouse: The Risk of PTSD and How To Heal - by Diamond Recovery

Wednesday, October 1, 2025

Why Narcissists Keep All of Their Relationships Transactional, and What That Has to Do With Discarding Others in Their Life.

 
This post is primarily written so that you can be aware of this narcissistic trait and make your own decisions about whether you want to tolerate inter-personal relationships that are only transactional in nature, and have found out that the person you may be relating to seems like they have some, most, or all of the traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder as written in DSM5

This post gives you a little about what transactional relationships are with narcissists, what purpose it serves for them, and why you often get a discard from them when you are not doing exactly what they demand, or want, or if "they get sick of you". 

What I mean by discard:

* a swift cruel rejection
* an impulsive rejection
* a rejection without an explanation or an explanation that is short, or confusing, or twisted, or not logical, or is projection-oriented, or is hypocrisy-oriented. 
* a swift rejection where they will not consider talking out relationship issues between you
* a possible rejection where they believe they will get an apology from you, so that they can re-establish control over you and get more power in the relationship with you (more of a manipulation)
* a possible rejection to make you suffer financially, or emotionally in order to scare you sufficiently so they can get you back again and call all of the shots; i.e. control you better than they did before (more of a manipulation)
* a rejection to "play" with your self esteem, and to see if they can lower it or destroy it
* a rejection because you are perceived to be too difficult to control
* a rejection because they are bored (narcissists have little tolerance for boredom)
* a rejection because they have a new source of narcissistic supply that they think is better than your particular versions of it
* a swift rejection to get a reaction out of you (i.e. to gain negative narcissistic supply from you: anger, tears, begging, fear). 
* a rejection because they feel they have been criticized (note: narcissists give themselves the right to criticize others, even constantly, even with a lot of cruelty, but do not give you the same privilege - narcissists also tend to rage and punish if they feel criticized, and it doesn't take much for them to feel criticized)
For more information, go here

Do not take "discards" personally as most narcissists behave in this manner

It's a trait common to almost all narcissists, and a trait that is uncommon among the rest of us. They even discard their children, or one child (usually a scapegoat child) and a spouse or two. Dark Triads (people with the traits of narcissism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism) are known to have blatant affairs in front of  their spouses to "play with" or damage their spouse's self esteem.  

Narcissists also do not have the empathy to care how discards make you feel

When dealing with another person's discard, you can think about whether you want to be in a relationship like this. Also realize that narcissists will often discard you again, and again, and that it is often a feature of their relationships and the cycle of abuse. Their promises to change, and to do better by you are often fake for the very reason that this has to do with their personality disorder, a disorder very unlikely to change. 

When narcissists get to know you, and as they take control of you, and your life, and get narcissistic supply from you, something is bound to happen where you either won't do what they tell you to do (where they feel they are losing control of you), or if they are generally feeling dissatisfied with the amount of power they have, or the amount of times they are getting their way, or they aren't sabotaging you enough to their satisfaction, they will probably eventually do a discard. The exceptions are narcissists without all of the traits in the DSM5, narcissists who are old and don't have the time to take great chances with their relationships any more, narcissists who are disabled and don't think they can successfully launch a discard that will go in their favor, and narcissists who feel they have more to gain keeping you than losing you, if you have a lot of prestige and clout and they feel they cannot "mess with a discard", and other issues where they feel they may go through more of a narcissistic collapse than getting more power by discarding you. 

This post is a combination of a "link dump" with quite a bit of commentary. You can look through the links dumped here (below), or go through the Google AI links to find more articles and studies in Google Search. 

I present this Google AI article first (but you can go through that same link to go through Google's Search engine for more articles):

Narcissists have transactional relationships because they view people as tools to fulfill their needs for attention, admiration, status, and power, rather than as individuals with their own feelings. Their impaired empathy prevents them from forming genuine emotional bonds; instead, they focus on what they can gain from a person, leading to relationships that are a calculated exchange of benefits rather than a connection of love and care. 

Why relationships are transactional for narcissists:

Lack of Empathy:

* Narcissists struggle to understand or value others' needs and feelings, making it difficult for them to form deep, emotional attachments. 

Self-Centered Motivation:

* Their primary motivation is self-interest and ego enhancement. They are only interested in relationships as a means to get what they want, such as constant admiration (narcissistic supply), power, or status. 

People as Tools:

* They see other people as objects or tools to serve their own purposes and needs. A person is kept around only as long as they are useful or provide "supply". 

Business Mindset:

* Relationships operate like a business transaction: the narcissist aims to get the maximum benefit for the minimum input, as noted by the Psychology Today article. 

No Genuine Connection:

* Instead of developing love, commitment, and intimacy, the narcissist sees these as drawbacks because they can restrict their options. 

Discarding When Unuseful:

* When a person no longer provides the desired benefits, the narcissist will discard them and seek a new source of supply, similar to discarding a used commodity. 

Exploiting for Needs:

* They will perform nice actions only if they expect a "payment" in return, such as consistent adoration and support, even if it's a small gesture on their part.

Do narcissists primarily insist on transactional relationships with their own children, a spouse or two, and their "best friends"? Yes.  


If you want a love relationship and are not happy with a transactional relationship, you are not alone. Most people want their closest personal relationships to be deep emotional, long lasting connections where both people are engaged in consistent love, empathy and trustworthy behavior. They do not like being used by narcissists for narcissistic agendas (which are almost exclusively about power, control, domination, exploitation and narcissistic supply and not much more than that). 

You simply cannot have deep, loving, empathetic stable relationship with narcissists and they blow up at you or discard you if they think you are unhappy with them or critical of them, if they think they are losing power over you, if they think you have differing opinions from them and so much more. Most narcissists are cruel, dysregulated people out for selfish ends or to sabotage people they are jealous of, or who they think might surpass them in some way.

That's a god-awful close personal relationship to be in, or stuck in. You aren't an anomaly if you think it's as awful as you feel it is. 

And it has nothing to do with you. You cannot change this trajectory through loving the narcissist more, or doing everything they demand, or by letting them take their aggressions out on you, or asking them to be kinder, or working harder and harder for them, or giving them continuous empathy, or even giving them continuous narcissistic supply throughout the day and night. It's a brain matter in them. The link explains: reduced gray matter in their insula, abnormal activity in the prefrontal cortex, probable 
dysfunctional connectivity in the frontostriatal pathway (this is still being studied), over-activity in parts of the brain that contributes to excessive self focus. 

The excessive self focus without being able to get out of it is something that is happening inside them, on a physiological level, which is why efforts towards healthy bonding with narcissists cannot work. Not only will healthy efforts not work by your efforts, they will cause enormous stress for you at the very least, and debilitating physical and psychological symptoms at the worst. What is more, narcissists will never care how those symptoms effect you because of their profound lack of empathy (which is also a brain matter for them). 

There are also adverse changes when healthy individuals get stuck in long term trauma bonded relationships with narcissists including the shrinkage of the hippocampus (which can grow back when the stress of being around the narcissistic individual is removed) and high levels of cortisol which directly effect the immune system.

So much of this is why I finally decided to be narcissist-free in my own life and so that I could fulfill a destiny of a lightworker. 

I continue some of this thought-line at the end of the blog post.

In terms of the question: How do most people feel about transactional relationships with narcissists I found this from Google AI

Most people feel negatively about transactional relationships with narcissists, experiencing confusion, unease, and a sense of walking on eggshells, as these interactions are characterized by a lack of true empathy, constant manipulation, and emotional punishment rather than genuine connection. People in these relationships often feel like their needs are ignored, they are being exploited, and they are trapped in a cycle of giving without receiving anything of genuine value. 

Negative Emotions and Experiences

* Unease and Confusion: Relationships with narcissists often leave people feeling confused and uneasy, constantly questioning the narcissist's mood and intentions. 

* Walking on Eggshells: Victims learn to be hyper-vigilant, constantly monitoring their words and actions to avoid anger, punishment, or withdrawal from the narcissist. 

* Lack of Genuine Connection: A fundamental lack of empathy prevents narcissists from forming deep, reciprocal relationships, leading to feelings of isolation and being unloved for who one truly is. 

* Emotional Abuse and Punishment: When expectations aren't met, narcissists may punish partners by withdrawing affection, attention, or emotional support. 

The Transactional Nature of the Relationship

* Self-Interest Driven: Narcissists approach relationships with self-interest, viewing others as having a function to fill rather than as separate individuals with feelings. 

* Exploitation and Control: The relationship is about the narcissist's needs, with the other person's empathy and contributions exploited to meet those needs. 

* One-Sided Exchange: The narcissist gives little and demands much, creating an imbalanced dynamic where the partner feels like they are constantly giving without receiving. 

* Replacement and Uselessness: If a partner fails to provide the necessary "supply," they are considered useless and may be ignored or replaced by others. 

Long-Term Effects on Individuals

* Mental Health Issues: These relationships can lead to increased anxiety, depression, and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). 

* Erosion of Self-Worth: The constant manipulation and disrespect chip away at a person's self-esteem and can make them feel like they must earn love or be perfect to be worthy of it. 

MORE GOOGLE AI ARTICLES
(narcissistic discard of relationships and the transactional relationships of sociopaths):

Are discards of people from their life the result of the narcissist looking at relationships as transactional? from Google AI:

Yes, a narcissist's discarding of a partner is a direct result of viewing the relationship as a transaction. In this framework, people are not viewed as partners but as "supply" to serve the narcissist's ego and needs. When a partner is no longer seen as useful, they are discarded. 

The transactional nature of a narcissistic relationship

For a narcissist, a relationship is not an emotional bond but an exchange, and their interest is conditional. The transactional view operates in distinct stages: 

* Idealization: In the beginning, the narcissist engages in "love bombing," showering their partner with affection and attention. This is not genuine intimacy but an investment to secure the loyalty and admiration that will serve their needs.

* Devaluation: Once the narcissist is sure they have captured their partner, the transaction shifts. The narcissist begins to devalue their partner with criticism and gaslighting. At this point, the partner's emotional well-being becomes secondary to the narcissist's need for control and superiority.

* Discard: When the narcissist becomes bored, feels their partner is no longer useful, or finds a "better" source of supply, they terminate the relationship. The discard is often abrupt and cold because it is not an emotional decision, but a practical one based on what the narcissist can gain. 

Discarding serves the narcissist's ego

The discard is a crucial part of the transaction, serving several self-centered purposes for the narcissist: 

* Reasserting control: The narcissist re-establishes dominance by causing confusion and keeping their ex-partner grasping for answers and reconciliation.

* Avoiding accountability: By discarding first, they avoid the risk of being rejected themselves or having to confront the problems they created in the relationship.

* Ego fuel: The ex-partner's pain and grief become a source of satisfaction, proving the narcissist's own significance.

* Securing new supply: Discarding one person clears the way to pursue new sources of validation and admiration. 

* Conditional love and the lack of empathy

A lack of empathy prevents narcissists from seeing their partners as individuals with their own feelings and needs. This means that the narcissist's "love" is always conditional—it lasts only as long as the partner is meeting their needs for admiration, control, and validation. When the partner sets boundaries or is no longer a useful "supply," their worth in the narcissist's transactional view is immediately diminished, and they become disposable. 

Since some narcissists also display Antisocial Personality Disorder  (sociopathic) traits resulting in Malignant Narcissism or the Dark Triad, I thought I'd give you some answers about their transactional types of relationships too. Note: Narcissists with sociopathic traits can have a little or a lot of sociopathic traits. If you see sociopathic traits, "You're in trouble" as the saying goes. 

from Google AI:

Yes, sociopaths primarily seek transactional relationships. Their relationships lack genuine emotional connection and are instead based on personal gain, such as power, money, status, or pleasure. For a sociopath, relationships are not about mutual care and emotional support but about what they can get out of the other person. 

How sociopaths use transactional relationships

* Manipulation: Sociopaths are skilled manipulators who use charm, guilt-tripping, and lying to influence others. In the early stages, they may engage in "love bombing," where they shower a partner with excessive affection to create a false sense of a deep emotional bond and secure the partner's loyalty and dependency.

* Lack of empathy: A key trait of sociopathy is a lack of empathy, making it difficult for them to form sincere attachments. Because they cannot truly understand or share in others' feelings, they view others as objects to be used, not people with needs and emotions.

* Control and exploitation: Sociopaths will often seek to dominate and control their partners or associates through various means, including emotional, financial, or physical abuse. This can include isolating their partner from friends and family to increase their dependence.

* Shallow and short-term focus: Their focus is on short-term gains and immediate pleasure rather than long-term commitment. A sociopath may drop a person once they have nothing left to offer and then move on to exploit a new victim.

* Opportunistic loyalty: Any loyalty they show is conditional and serves their own interests rather than stemming from genuine affection. When a partner no longer provides a benefit, that loyalty can end instantly. 

The consequences for their partners

A relationship with a sociopath can be emotionally and psychologically damaging. Partners often experience: 

* Feelings of confusion and betrayal due to the sociopath's deceit and inconsistent behavior.

* Eroded self-esteem caused by constant manipulation and gaslighting.

* Emotional distress, including anxiety, depression, and loneliness.

* Feelings of isolation as the sociopath works to sever their connection to outside support systems. 

MORE READING AND SOME VIDEOS
"Narcissists Seek Transactions, Not Relationships" - by Dr. Les Carter for Surviving Narcissism (You Tube channel)

Are narcissists even transactional with their own children? - yes. Google Search and Google AI

Are narcissists even transactional with their spouse? - yes. Google Search and Google AI

How narcissists transactional relationships lead to cruelty to others - Google Search and Google AI

How narcissists transactional relationships lead to divorce - Google Search and Google AI

How narcissists transactional relationships with their children lead to estrangement - Google Search and Google AI

Do narcissists ever give up on transactional relationships? - Google Search and Google AI

Can a transactional attitude towards close personal relationships lead to murder? - Google Search and Google AI

Narcissists promises are often fake - even the transactional promises they make (something to keep in mind) - Google Search and Google AI

How narcissists use "future faking" to get you back into a relationship with them, (i.e. hoping the transaction of making promises of "your dreams coming true" will mean more control and power for them) -  Google Search and Google AI

The Stages of Narcissistic Relationships - by Darlene Lancer, JD, LMFT

Nipping a toxic mental illness in the bud. - by Brian D. Johnson, Ph.D. and Laurie Berdahl, M.D. for Psychology Today

Understanding the Sociopath: Cause, Motivation, Relationship
The sociopath remains largely misunderstood.
- by Seth Meyers, Psy.D. and reviewed by Abigail Fagan for Psychology Today

Exploring Romantic Relationships with Sociopaths - by the administrators of Our Mental Health
- comes with a number of videos

Can A Sociopath Fall in Love? - Adina ABA staff

Will You Be Seduced by a Sociopath?
Sociopaths use similar tactics in dating, law, business, and politics.
- by Bill Eddy LCSW, JD for Psychology Today

Understanding the Sociopath: Cause, Motivation, Relationship
The sociopath remains largely misunderstood.
- by Seth Meyers Psy.D. for Psychology Today

How to Spot a Sociopath in 3 Steps
It helps to know some of the warning signs of sociopaths.
- by Bill Eddy LCSW, JD for Psychology Today

How to Know if You Are Dealing With a Sociopath
Sociopaths can be violent and dangerous.
- by Scott A. Bonn Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Sociopaths: Impaired Sense of Smell
Sociopaths may have impaired olfactory functions.
- by Stephanie A. Sarkis Ph.D. for Psychology Today

3 Hidden Powers of Sociopathic Bullies
Watch out for sociopathic bullies who make it seem like you are bullying them.
- by Bill Eddy LCSW, JD for Psychology Today

When a Sociopath Is Hell Bent on Destroying You
If you've been abused by a sociopath, here are 16 focus points for recovery
. - by Carrie Barron M.D. for Psychology Today

Why Narcissistic Sociopaths Objectify Women
Why some antisocial personality types objectify women and are drawn to politics.
- by Clifford N. Lazarus Ph.D. for Psychology Today

THE SPIRITUAL ASPECTS OF DEALING WITH NARCISSISTS

I have tried to find out what a number of religious teachings, spiritual practitioners, spiritual teachers, spiritual groups, and the exceptionally empathetic think about narcissists in our world today. 

While many of them have different ways of dealing with narcissists, and different teachings about what narcissist's grand purpose in the world is, there seems to be a consensus that these are powerless people who attempt to gain power through teaching lessons that hurt others.

They are also most attracted to and want to get into the lives of super sensitive empaths, people in the helping professions, people who are highly evolved, highly intelligent or artistic people, people with a great deal of inner and outer beauty, people who are into causes and justice, lightworkers, great healers, great miracle makers, great peace makers, people who are unsettled by the amount of violence in the human race, and the destruction of the planet, etc. 

Not all of them are attracted to these kinds of people, but most of them are. 

What they want to teach when they meet super sensitive empaths, and people of that ilk, is not realized, as they cannot bring enlightenment into their teachings with envy in their souls, or with competition with their students as their agenda, and they cannot attain "staying power" by hurting others. That all has to be cleaned out before their teachings are to be taken seriously.

What is realized for these groups of people that narcissists tend to target, if not right away, is that the sensitives and empaths do not usually break and fall apart from the narcissist's dark teachings and techniques, but break a glass ceiling in their own consciousness and spirituality instead, and reach a better position where they are even more sensitive, more tuned in to helping humanity, and know more about how to do it than they did before, and are more inspired by peace, while becoming more intelligent, more grateful, more intuitive, more in tune with the truth, having a far better understanding of the workings of spiritual evolution.

In other words, it is breaking the ceiling to an internal transformation that takes place within oneself. 

For those spirit workers or empath workers who got clamped down with PTSD symptoms, the gradual disappearance of symptoms becomes like shedding the skin of a past life. You may find that old wounds you endured become diseased and have to be removed or reworked. As I said, it is like transforming or shedding, take your pick.

In some religious philosophies, the teachers of those religions insist that you thank the teacher/narcissist who helped in breaking the glass ceiling for you. It probably would not have been possible without them (and I believe that is true for a lot of us - sometimes you can't realize anything until you're thrust in the darkness as to where the light in you is).

And while you cannot dwell with that teacher in an unhappy transactional relationship, and weren't meant to, that transactional relationship helps you to break free of wanting a transactional relationship with anyone in the first place. You are as free as a butterfly.

You cannot go back because the reason you healed was to go forward and help others heal.

You would never tolerate it again anyway (for those of you who wonder why sensitives and empaths never go back) - you have graduated from those particular teachings.

According to many spiritual practices, there are always spiritual "energies", or "teachings from beyond" (each religion has their phrase), and you go forward into the light and eventually absorb and become the light. 

In my own life, without revealing too much about my spirituality and my journey with that, I believe that "my job" has been to study darkness, to understand its workings, dungeons and traits, to shine the light on it for others who might want a more peaceful world too and show where you will not find it, leading you, I hope, to where you will find it, and eventually show how healing yourself is the light, peace and love you've always wanted. 

In healing ourselves, we do heal others, even if we may not have started out with great healing energies or thoughts initially. It might not be obvious at first that it is our duty. But you know when you've arrived at that place where, when someone suffers, your impulse is not to withdraw, but to reach out and comfort.

* Some of the ways Christians deal with narcissists
* Some of the ways Buddhists deal with narcissists
* Some of the ways Pagans deal with narcissists
* Some of the ways Muslims deal with narcissists
* Some of the ways Gypsies (Romani) deal with people of bad intent
* How do Quakers view narcissism?
* Ways in which minorities deal with narcissistic authoritarians

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Wednesday, September 24, 2025

Can Narcissists Give Up Gaslighting in a Relationship?

As with many posts I will be publishing, this post is primarily a "link dump" where I put in links because there are so many good articles now that you can read up on this subject yourself.

I have written a post on gaslighting myself HERE

To answer the question, "Can narcissists give up gaslighting in a relationship?" And by the way, narcissists are known for gaslighting. If they have all or a lot of the traits of the personality disorder in the DSM, you'll probably find that it is one of their most obvious traits, and that the high majority of them use gaslighting in their relationships. 

My first stop was Google Search and Google AI. This is the Google AI article - in dark red (note: I continue with my own findings below this article):

In a relationship, it is highly unlikely that a person with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) will completely stop gaslighting. Gaslighting is a core manipulative tactic narcissists use to maintain control and protect their fragile ego, and they have very little motivation to stop. 

Why narcissists rarely give up gaslighting

* Need for control: A narcissist must control the narrative and their partner's perception of reality to feel dominant. When they can no longer manipulate you, they often panic and escalate their tactics.

* Inability to take accountability: Admitting fault or being wrong shatters the narcissist's carefully constructed false image of perfection. To avoid shame, they twist facts, rewrite history, and blame their partner, all of which are forms of gaslighting.

* Lack of empathy: Narcissists lack the emotional capacity to understand or care about the hurt their gaslighting causes. They view relationships as a zero-sum game, where they must win and you must lose.

* It works for them: For the narcissist, gaslighting is a successful tactic that has helped them get what they want for years. They have no reason to change a strategy that allows them to avoid responsibility and maintain their superiority. 

Can a narcissist ever change?

Significant, lasting change is rare and depends on a series of difficult conditions that are seldom met. 

* Willingness for therapy: The person must genuinely acknowledge their harmful behavior and commit to intensive, long-term therapy. However, their ego and a pervasive lack of self-awareness make narcissists famously resistant to treatment.

* External consequences: Some narcissists may seek therapy if they face a major consequence, such as the threat of losing an important relationship. But even then, there is no guarantee they will put in the necessary effort.

* Not for love: You cannot love or support a narcissist into changing their behavior. The decision and motivation must come from them alone, and a manipulator may exploit a partner's hope for change to maintain control. 

How to protect yourself from a gaslighting narcissist

Because genuine change is so unlikely, it is crucial to focus on protecting your own well-being. 

* Document everything: Keep a journal of events and conversations to counter the narcissist's manipulation and remind yourself of the truth.

* Set and enforce boundaries: Clearly communicate what you will and will not tolerate. Be prepared to stand firm on these boundaries, as the narcissist will inevitably try to push them.

* Do not react: The narcissist is trying to provoke a reaction to use against you. Do not engage in arguments, and do not take their behavior personally.

* Seek professional support: A therapist can provide support, help you validate your experiences, and assist you in identifying when you are being manipulated.

* Consider leaving the relationship: If the abusive behavior continues, the healthiest and safest option for your mental health may be to leave. Your well-being must come first. 

The reason why they see no need to give it up is that this tool, even though it is abusive to others, and even though it has been categorized as abuse by psychologists around the world, and even though it can cause C-PTSD in their victims, especially victims who are children. it helps with their main agenda of why they are in relationships in the first place: to gain evermore power, control and domination over you. It is also a cornerstone of coercive control. And coercive control can lead to relational violence

SOME OF THE WAYS IT WORKS FOR PERPETRATORS

They feel they get to play with your sanity, that it is the easiest and fastest way to get power, control and domination for themselves: by constantly re-framing and altering reality to suit themselves, they hope to either build a trauma bond or co-dependent relationship with you. It's a type of entrapment where they hope you will look to them to define your world, define yourself, need approval from them, and how to re-define situations you are in. 
     If you aren't looking to them the way they want, not giving credence to their distorting your reality, or believing in their lies, or refusing to see situations the way they want you to, or if they have been caught in a lie, they gaslight as a way to justify devaluing and discarding

In devaluing and discarding you, they continue to distort reality by telling others in smear campaigns that they left you because you were crazy. Then they try to paint themselves as the "true victim" so that common friends or common family will help them rather than help you. 

Perspecticide, is also, in essence, gaslighting. With perspecticide they define how you are feeling and  thinking without your input. They also argue with you about how you think and feel (i.e. they don't believe you are telling the truth about how you feel and think). 

They believe that gaslighting helps them avoid accountability for their actions

They believe that gaslighting helps to get them superiority over others

They believe that it induces other's dependence on them wherein they can call the shots in the relationship and therefor somewhat enslave people to do what they want.  

They believe gaslighting will help them convince you to have doubts about others you are close to in order to isolate you with only their perspectives and distortions.

It is used as a weapon for increasing other's insecurities, decreasing other's self esteem, and negating other's needs to be heard and understood.

Narcissists also use gaslighting to spread false gossip

They believe it helps them get you to accept minimizing your own pain and suffering. Narcissists often feel that the less pain and suffering they have to deal with from you, the more the attention is focused on them.

They believe gaslighting helps them to undermine your credibility, perspectives and intelligence

Gaslighting is used to highlight the good they do while simultaneously trying to bury their abusive natures, or the bad that they do to others.

Narcissists use gaslighting as a form of intimidation, retaliation, bullying and to win an argument at all cost to your relationship with them, and often with "you are" statements which they think may help to erode the victim's credibility and perspectives more. 

Apparently all of these are difficult for narcissists to give up

.... 

In another post I will explain how gaslighting effects victims. In child victims it can have life long consequences, including disabilities in terms of organizing and organized thought patterns and processes, memorizing for tests in school, possible inability to keep to procedures, possible hypervigilance, possible "failure to launch", an inability to regulate strong emotions and possible C-PTSD symptoms and disassociation because in narcissistic family systems being called crazy usually has elements of attack and shaming, both of which are categorized as a form of abuse when taken to the level of gaslighting.

Gaslighting can also erode a child's real personality because he or she is constantly being derisively judged as "crazy" and "without value".

FURTHER READING AND SOME VIDEOS

5 Signs It's Gaslighting, Not a Disagreement - by PsychToGo (a consortium of mental health professionals) - You Tube

Narcissism, Gaslighting & Emotional Abuse: Top 5 Tips for Therapists - Amy Marlow-Macoy, Med, LPC, and Amy Kempe, LPC, NCC, CSAT (authors of "The Clinician’s Guide to Treating Adult Children of Narcissists") - You Tube

Gaslighted by Silence - by psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula - You Tube
explanation of video:
Gaslighting isn’t always loud—sometimes the narcissist says nothing at all. That silence, that cold indifference when you're hurting, is one of the most insidious forms of gaslighting. You’re left doubting your reality, wondering if you’re being dramatic or ridiculous, all because no one acknowledged what happened. In narcissistic relationships, silence isn't neutral—it’s a denial of your experience, and it hurts just as much as the words.

The SURPRISING SIGNS Someone Is "GASLIGHTING" You!
by psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula - You Tube

A Covert Narcissist's Gaslighting Strategy - psychologist Dr. Les Carter for Surviving Narcissism - You Tube

The Cruelest Form of Gaslighting - by psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula - You Tube

Your Reality | Award-winning short film on Gaslighting - Tatjana Anders - You Tube
explanation of video:
TRIGGER WARNING!
Your Reality is a multi-award winning short psychological thriller that tackles the current topic of Gaslighting, with the goal to raise awareness of this dangerous emotional abuse and help you recognise its signs.
The film follows a successful young marketing executive, who after moving in with her charming photographer boyfriend is in danger of losing everything, as she becomes increasingly unsure of her ability to trust her own memory.

Covert Narcissists: Why Their Abuse Feels More Damaging - by Richard Grannon - You Tube
discusses the more insidious, covert forms of gaslighting

GASLIGHTING | Award-winning short film - by Qbit Films

When being gaslighted makes YOU seem unstable - by psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula - You Tube

7 Signs Your Parents are Gaslighting You - by PsychToGo (a consortium of mental health professionals) - You Tube

The Damage Done by Constant Parental Gaslighting
Have you experienced parental gaslighting? It's time to trust yourself again
 - by Daniel S. Lobel Ph.D. for Psychology Today

11 Red Flags of Gaslighting in a Relationship
Gaslighting is a manipulation tactic used to gain power. And it works too well
 - by Stephanie A. Sarkis Ph.D. for Psychology Today

The Math of Manipulation in Relationships
When denominator neglect is used to make you doubt your truth
 
- by Stephanie A. Sarkis Ph.D. for Psychology Today
This is a type of gaslighting.

3 Key Drivers of Gaslighting
Understanding why people gaslight helps in early detection and resistance
 - Jennifer Fraser Ph.D. for Psychology Today

How to Respond When Being Gaslit
Knowing what to do is key.
- by Hannah Alderete MA, LMHC for Psychology Today

7 Stages of Gaslighting in a Relationship
How gaslighters emotionally manipulate, traumatize, and exploit victims.
- by Preston Ni M.S.B.A. for Psychology Today

Why Gaslighters Accuse You of Gaslighting
Accusing you of their own behavior is a classic gaslighter's tactic.
- by Stephanie A. Sarkis Ph.D. for Psychology Today

What Exactly Is Gaslighting, and Why Do People Do It?
A new study shows what drives people to gaslight and how to recover from it.
- by Dan Mager MSW for Psychology Today

The 5 Worst Things We Do to Each Other, Psychologically
From gaslighting to love bombing, manipulators love playing dangerous games.
- by Kevin Bennett Ph.D. for Psychology Today

4 Types of Gaslighting in Families
1. The double bind.
- by Jonice Webb Ph.D. for Psychology Today

7 Signs of Being Emotionally Erased by One's Family
How childhood neglect affects feeling seen and valued in relationships.
- by Jonice Webb Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Why a Family Would Ever Exclude One of Their Own
Exclusion in a family is as harmful as bullying, and sometimes even more so.
- by Jonice Webb Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Why people who are neurodivergent may be falsely accused of gaslighting. - by Louise Taylor Ph.D. for Psychology Today

How we pick up the torch from the gaslighter and turn it on ourselves. - by Ingrid Clayton Ph.D. for Psychology Today

What is gaslighting, and are you a target? - by Karyl McBride Ph.D. for Psychology Today

The gaslighter's charm often advances their deception. - by Winifred Rule For Psychology Today

Gaslighting can happen to you, too - by Robin Stern Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Learn a gaslighter's cheap tricks. - by Jeremy E. Sherman Ph.D. for Psychology Today

How to identify subconscious gaslighting and what to do about it. - by Amelia Kelley Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Mitigate the silent threat posed by gaslighters at work. - by Melissa A. Wheeler Ph.D. for Psychology Today

A new review illuminates the causes and consequences of gaslighting. - by Susan Krauss Whitbourne PhD, ABPP for Psychology Today

Gaslighting plays a role in social schisms, even when we see through it. - by Terri Apter Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Researchers created a test to determine how often people experience gaslighting. - by Gwendolyn Seidman Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Gaslighters present biased arguments that confuse you. Don't be fooled. - by Melanie Greenberg Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Gaslighting is devious, manipulative and untruthful. Don't fall for it. - Melanie Greenberg Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Understanding why people gaslight helps in early detection and resistance. - by Jennifer Fraser Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Gaslighting can confuse victims into thinking they have done wrong. - by Robert Enright Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Research debunks the gaslighting myth that abuse makes one talented and resilient. - by Jennifer Fraser Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Those who encounter medical gaslighting should push back against it. - by Karen Stollznow Ph.D. for Psychology Today

Wednesday, September 17, 2025

Do Narcissists React with Anger When They See Empathy in Others? The Dangerous Attraction Between Narcissists and Empaths

Note: I'll be publishing some posts that are, in essence, "link dumps" to other articles. I'm doing this because there are already so many good articles on the subject and I don't have much to add to them except in my introductions and/or comments below the links (in this case I'm limiting my words to the introduction of these links). 

I am providing many of these links so that if you are an empath, you have a clear picture of what you are likely to encounter with narcissists and why you are encountering them.

Remember that narcissists are mainly in relationships to get narcissistic supply and control of people and situations. Narcissists are power brokers. This motivation is not likely to change, ever, even if you talk to them about the intrinsic value of compromise or empathy. Lack of empathy is also a brain matter for narcissists (the anterior cingulate cortex). They don't feel empathy and it is pretty much a given that they never will. 

As an empath, you will probably get to a point where a narcissist's need for more and more power and control over you, and putting that above all else in your relationship will over-shadow everything else in your relationship. While you may have great empathy for them, they won't for you (except possibly via cognitive empathy - understanding empathy on a purely intellectual level without feeling it). 

Instances of cognitive empathy:

Some of these come from Jason Skidmore's You Tube Channel when he explains how he experiences cognitive empathy as a person who has been diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Others, more or less, come from seeing discussions in forums for narcissists, particularly posts devoted to how they are all dealing with not feeling empathy in a world that expects empathy from them: 

* "I see tears. Does that mean I'm supposed to comfort her? Oh, to dig up the motivation for doing that!"
* "Oh, Cripe! These people are all crying at this funeral. Who are they kidding? Isn't this all pretend? I'm having a hard time believing this is genuine."
* "I suppose to keep my honor, I'll have to pretend to care."  
* "I'm aware that I hurt her, but I just don't have the capacity to authentically care about it. Her feelings are irritating! I want to discard her badly, but maybe I'll have to fake caring if I want anything from her in the future." 
* "She's crying. I think this is a power move on her part. I can get tears flowing too if I really concentrate. Maybe that is what I'll do to get her to stop crying and pay attention to me. Let her take care of me. I can pretend to be more of a victim than she can."
* "I wish there was a way to say 'I don't care what you're going through!' without everyone getting on my case about how heartless I am. I hate that I have to fake empathy all of the time! Beam me up to another planet where I don't have to keep doing this, please! Why should we all have to feel ashamed that we don't have empathy when we can't help it, people!!!"

One issue for empaths is that they can take great care of a narcissist when they are sick, but narcissists often abandon empaths when they are sick. This also goes for an empath going through a traumatic life event, getting injured, getting a diagnosis of cancer, and so on. Narcissists often prove they are "fair weather friends" and then hoover you back when they think they can be the focus in your life again. Sounds harsh, but it is true if you look into articles about that through the original link in this paragraph.

Because empaths are more vulnerable to entering into relationships with narcissists because of their caring and compassionate natures, and because narcissists see them as highly exploitable, the risk is greater that they will experience more severe forms of domestic violence and trauma bonding than other types of people.  

This can really, really hurt an empath, so it is good for any empath to be aware of this before it happens. Most therapists suggest, at the very least, that your main relationships not be with narcissists, that empathy be matched in your closest personal relationships, that your ethics be matched, even, to some extent, your interests because interests can determine compatibility, and compatibility can determine matching in other parts of your character. 

My other motivation for this "link dump" is to use this article in other posts as a place to go to understand what you are up against in terms of their cognitive empathy. 

I also may add more links if more studies about the relationships between empaths and narcissists become available. 

So, do narcissists react with anger when they see empathy in others. Yes, even if the anger is internalized, which for many narcissists it is because they feel ashamed for not feeling empathy. And where you get narcissistic shame, you usually get anger and even rage, and sometimes the rage can lead to them abusing you
 
This is a link to the Google AI article (in dark red) about this. You can also explore other articles through that same link via Google Search:

Yes, narcissists can react with narcissistic rage to displays of empathy in others, as it can trigger feelings of shame and insecurity by highlighting their own lack of genuine empathy. An empathetic person reminds the narcissist of something they lack, potentially making them feel threatened, exposed, or manipulated, leading to an aggressive response aimed at regaining control or destroying the other person's self-esteem. 

Reasons for a Narcissist's Anger

Shame and Insecurity:

* A genuinely empathetic person highlights the narcissist's own emotional void, which can activate shame they cannot process. 

Threat to Control:

* Displays of empathy can be perceived as an attempt to manipulate or control the narcissist, or it may feel like the empath is challenging their dominance. 

False Self:

* Narcissists often perform empathy rather than feel it. Seeing a true display of empathy can expose their own lack of authenticity. 

Jealousy:

* The narcissist may feel that the empath is receiving the attention or admiration they crave, leading to resentment and anger. 

How a Narcissist Might React

Aggression and Insults:

* The narcissist may become verbally aggressive, yelling, insulting, and belittling the empathetic person. 

Gaslighting:

* They may try to manipulate the empathetic person's emotions or reality to make them doubt their own feelings and experiences. 

Threats and Intimidation:

* They might use threats to regain control or punish the empath for perceived slights. 

Focus on Themselves:

* The narcissist may shift the focus from the empath's feelings to their own, demanding that the empath stop crying or expressing their emotions. 

Why This Reaction is So Harmful

Invalidation:

* The empath's feelings and genuine displays of humanity are dismissed, leading to feelings of confusion and self-doubt. 

Emotional Manipulation:

* The narcissist uses anger to control the situation and maintain their power over the other person. 

Erosion of Self-Worth:

* The interaction can destroy the empath's confidence and make them feel guilty for their feelings. 


HOW DO NARCISSISTS WANT TO CONTROL EMPATHS

Google AI article (also in dark red):

Narcissists want to control empaths by exploiting their compassionate nature and tendency to people-please. Narcissists are initially drawn to empaths, whom they perceive as ideal sources for the constant admiration and validation they crave. To achieve control, they employ a range of manipulative tactics that systematically erode the empath's self-worth and independence. 

The cycle of control: How it unfolds

1. Idealization (love-bombing)
In the beginning, a narcissist will overwhelm an empath with excessive flattery, attention, and affection. They will mirror the empath's hopes and interests to create a false sense of a "perfect match". This love-bombing hooks the empath, making them feel special and deeply connected, which creates a powerful, but false, emotional bond. 
2. Devaluation and manipulation
Once the empath is invested in the relationship, the narcissist begins to show their true colors. They start using the empath's kindness and nurturing instincts as tools for manipulation by: 
* Gaslighting: They will deny or twist facts, causing the empath to doubt their own memory, sanity, and sense of reality.
* Blame-shifting: A narcissist will project their own insecurities and faults onto the empath, making the empath feel responsible for their partner's anger or unhappiness.
* Criticism: They may constantly criticize the empath's appearance, intelligence, or choices to undermine their self-esteem and make them dependent on the narcissist's approval. 
3. Isolation
* To gain total control, narcissists work to isolate empaths from their support systems. 
* They may create jealousy or conflict with the empath's friends and family to drive them away.
* They will convince the empath that the narcissist is the "only one who truly understands" them, making the empath feel reliant on them for emotional support. 
4. The trauma bond
* The intermittent reinforcement of love-bombing followed by devaluation creates a powerful "trauma bond". 
* When the empath is devalued, they crave the return of the idealized partner and will work harder to please the narcissist.
* The narcissist uses this to maintain control, throwing in intermittent moments of false kindness to keep the empath hooked on the cycle. 
5. Hoovering
* If the empath tries to break free, a narcissist will engage in "hoovering" tactics to suck them back in. 
They may make false promises of change, suddenly apologize, or use guilt to make the empath feel responsible for ending the relationship.
* Since empaths are naturally drawn to helping and healing others, they are especially susceptible to this tactic, hoping they can get back to the loving partner they first knew. 
Why empaths are targeted

A narcissist specifically targets empaths because of their unique traits

* Need to heal: Empaths are driven by a need to help and fix others, and they can sense the underlying pain or brokenness in the narcissist. This makes them an easy target for a narcissist who can play the victim.
* Codependency: Many empaths have codependent tendencies, causing them to focus on the needs of others while neglecting their own. This dynamic perfectly suits the narcissist, who only wants to take without giving back.
* Sensitivity: An empath's high emotional sensitivity is weaponized by the narcissist, who can provoke emotional responses and then dismiss them as being "too sensitive".

 HOW NARCISSISTS USE "EMPATHY"

How narcissists use *empathy* to their advantage - by Dr. Ramani (You Tube - her own channel)

DETECTING THE NARCISSIST'S FEIGNED EMPATHY

Detecting the narcissist's pseudo empathy - by Dr. Ramani (You Tube - her own channel)

PUTTING ON A PERFORMANCE OF EMPATHY

Narcissists and performative empathy - by Dr. Ramani (You Tube - her own channel)

NARCISSISTS CANNOT FEEL EMPATHY
BECAUSE IT IS A BRAIN MATTER THAT IS RELATIVELY FIXED
BY THEIR EARLY TWENTIES

A Neuroscience Video on Brain Studies of People with Clinically Diagnosed Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Brain Studies on Veterans and Victims of Narcissistic Abuse - my own post

HOW NARCISSISTS EXPLOIT PEOPLE WITH EMPATHY

How narcissists exploit people with empathy - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

HOW NARCISSISTS VIEW EMPATHS
AND TREAT EMPATHS

Do narcissists tend to see empaths as weak? - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

Do narcissists tend to see empaths as exploitable? - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

A dark empath takes advantage of a real empath Google AI answer (with Google Search)

Covert narcissist and empath - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

22 stages of relationship between an empath and a narcissist - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

Do narcissists respect or disrespect empaths? - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

Do malignant narcissists especially target empaths - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

THE RESLIENCY OF EMPATHS

Are empaths more resilient than others who break up with narcissists? - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

How an empath heals after breaking up with a narcissist - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

Are empaths more fragile or more resilient when it comes to abuse? - Google AI answer (with Google Search)

PEOPLE WITH PTSD ARE IN MORE DANGER OF DAMAGE FROM NARCISSISTS
AND PEOPLE WITH PTSD TEND TO BE MORE EMPATHETIC ABOUT THE PAIN OF OTHERS

WHY ARE RELATIONSHIPS WITH NARCISSISTS
SO DANGEROUS FOR THE EMPATH?

Link takes you to the dangerous aspects of relationships between empaths and narcissists:
Empaths & Narcissists: Understanding Attraction, Manipulation, and Healing - by Silvi Saxena, MBA, MSW, LSW, CCTP, OSW-C and medically reviewed by  Naveed Saleh, MD,  MS for Choosing Therapy

SAFETY PLANS FOR EMPATHS

How do empaths stay safe from narcissists - Google Search

Safety plans for empaths - Google AI answer (with Google Search) 

Protecting Your Energy: A Guide for Empaths & HSPs - by Sheryl Wagner