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Tuesday, August 24, 2021

The Pursuit of Power, Control and Domination in Narcissistic and Sociopathic Abusers: Their Be-all and End-all Agenda


As Psychologist Alexander Burgemeester states in the article, When the Narcissist Can't Control You Anymore, This Happens:

... A major component of narcissism is gaining control over others. This type of behavior is often a reaction to a childhood completely dominated by a narcissistic parent (or parents)- controlled in all aspects of his young life and not allowed to develop control over his own life.

Healthy parenting involves allowing children to learn where the boundaries lie, whereas narcissistic parenting involves the parent(s) establishing complete emotional control over their offspring.

The narcissist feels threatened when they lose control; they are afraid they will be exposed for who they really are, and they are petrified of losing their narcissistic supply.

They can’t bear this feeling, and to defend themselves against this gut-wrenching emotion, the narcissist will go into attack mode. These are the things you can expect when the narcissist can’t control you anymore.

Narcissistic People see other people in their environment as extensions of themselves. They are the center of the world- the controller, an idol to be adored and admired. In their mind, this makes it acceptable for them to control and abuse others. An expert in knowing best how things should turn out and how people should behave, the narcissist tries to control them ...

The pursuit of power, control and domination in relationships is the number one agenda for all abusers, most of whom tend to be narcissists and sociopaths. They simply cannot imagine any relationship empty of this huge desire. In fact, as they become closer to other people (who become part of their inner circle), this desire will begin to overwhelm them to the point where they will be hurting and manipulating others to fulfill this agenda. They feel they must have power, control and domination to feel emotionally regulated and calm. 

Emotional dysregulation for narcissists and sociopaths is usually in the form of rage. They try to make everyone they are in close personal relationships with feel that the demand or command behind the rage is reasonable, and that it is the only thing that will make them stop raging and hurting other people. There is no doubt that their rages are destructive, and some people around them capitulate to their demands to dampen the destruction. 

It tends to be one of two cycles: 

1. they rage, the other person capitulates to the demand, they become calm again for awhile until the next time they are having a fit about how much dominance they have, so they rage again, over, and over, and over, and over again in a cycle kind of way: rage, satisfaction, insecurity about their domination status, back to raging again to get their victim to capitulate to the demand-of-the-moment. .

2. the narcissist (or sociopath) rages, the other person backs off, the narcissist becomes more enraged because the person is backing off (the narcissist hopes that if they "up" the rage to a punishment in "blackmail style", that the other person will capitulate), but the other person becomes traumatized by the punishment which makes them back off more, which makes the narcissist or sociopath ever more  rage-ful and escalate the punishments because they aren't getting their way. Then some narcissists think that if they enact extreme forms of revenge, then that will get them their way. Many of their closest relationships will eventually end up looking like this. And in the meantime, their revenge fantasies can take over their entire lives.

Sometimes they feel that totally destroying the other person will result in emotional regulation and well-being for them, but most often it does not because paranoia can and does take over after every act of evil and destruction that they perpetrate, depending on what kind of narcissist or sociopath they are: Paranoia will be much more of a factor for narcissists and sociopaths who want to have some semblance of social standing, to be looked upon as pillars or prophets. Paranoia is less of a factor for sociopaths who are grifters, loners, who do not have a reputation to upkeep or maintain (and instead their reputation is built more upon how clever they are in breaking societal norms, fooling you and others, and getting away with it all). The latter can be much more dangerous than the former for this reason.

However, trying to reach a stage of emotional regulation and equilibrium that pleases them does not necessarily have to have rage as a precursor. For instance, they are quite capable of emotional regulation in public: with bosses, with their friends, with some of their colleagues, with certain family members who they have deemed to be totally on their side. They can even be criticized to some extent in their line of work without becoming enraged. They will especially be regulated for a potential mate in the love bombing stage
                                                                                                                                  
When they feel confident that you can be effected by their opinions and how they treat you, often the controlling behavior begins to manifest a little more clearly. When they feel they have finally hooked you and enmeshed with you, that is when the domination and small signs of rage begin to come out (the rage tends to be subtle at first: the cold shoulder, "behavior lectures" - telling you how to behave in all kinds of situations, what to say to whom, toying around with your self esteem a little, toying around with your perceptions - called gaslighting, inserting themselves between you and others - called triangulation). This tells us that the rages are manipulative, and used to get their victims to surrender to their desires, and especially since the rages tend to ramp up in intensity over time especially if the narcissist is not being held accountable in any way. 

Most people experience anger when there is an injustice. Narcissists and sociopaths get angry when they want to dominate and control you. Another big difference is that when most people feel they are being criticized, they feel hurt, whereas narcissists and sociopaths instead tend to rage and get destructive when they feel criticized. They feel their grandiose ego is being questioned, so they go on the attack.

This is from the same article as above by Psychologist Alexander Burgemeester:

When a Narcissist can’t control you anymore they will fail to find Narcissistic Supply sources, just like a drug addict that can’t find any drugs. This precipitates a narcissistic crisis.

The narcissist becomes more desperate and more compulsive in looking for his drug. The more they fail, the more he is hurt and expresses his emotional turmoil by acting out (not uncommonly with ‘narcissistic rage’).

The Narcissist is so afraid of losing their Narcissistic supply (and of unconsciously being emotionally hurt) – that they would rather “control”, “master”, or “direct” the potentially destabilizing situation.

Narcissistic Rage

If you think you’ve seen your narcissistic partner angry, well hell hath no fury like narcissistic rage! You will witness their wrath in a way you’ve never experienced before, and let me warn you in advance, it will scare you.

Scaring you becomes the only way that they can think of to maintain control over you. It's also a punishment: "How dare you not let me control you! Just for that I'll ..." and then the threats come out. They won't say this, but they will show you that being recalcitrant about pleasing them is going to end up with a lot of pain for you (what they don't tend to realize is that pleasing them ends up being a lot more painful for you because of their rage cycles). 

Going from enmeshment, flattering you and caring about your every move, to a long campaign of hatred, silence and destruction also tends to happen quickly, in the blink of an eye, a sign that they never loved you. To them, love means that in return for you idealizing them, they may pretend to idealize you, but of course, they will always try to let you know that you are also more flawed than they are and that their idealization of you is always going to be on shaky ground. They put themselves in charge of correcting your flaws and this is where power and control begins to manifest in your relationship with them. 

Their love has nothing at all to do with intimacy, trust, sharing and bonding. It has to do with how controllable you are. And if you aren't controllable enough for them, they devalue and discard you, or alternatively, try to destroy you. 

When they feel you are disillusioned with them, when you have caught them at lies, manipulations, gaslighting, cheating, triangulating, broken promises, and hypocrisies that are the hallmark of narcissistic traits, they discard you because once you have seen these traits, they know you will no longer be idealizing them. Again, love to them means idealizing them. We know that this is peculiar to narcissists and that the general population does not conduct themselves in relationships in this way. 

But this is all they tend to know or want to know. Their "brand of love" is so wrapped up in the urge for domination and control that it overpowers everything, like a strong addiction (only it is an addiction at others' expense). They just want to manipulate and order people around without the inconvenience of looking into how it is effecting them and you.  

And it is hard for them to keep their narcissistic traits hidden (especially these days with so much discussion about narcissism) that they feel that when the traits are exposed or complained about by the other person, they take it as a challenge: they see it as a race of who will devalue the other the most and who will be the "believable one". When you see the rage and destruction after your legitimate complaint, that is the crux of what it is about for them.

Many people expect and hope for a resolution in a close personal relationship, and instead of getting resolution, from narcissists you get devaluing, rage and destruction. It means that they are having a temper tantrum about the amount of power and control they are losing when it comes to you and your life, and about a race to the bottom. 

When you are in a normal relationship, it is assumed that neither person is perfect, and that issues can be worked out with self reflection (owning up to mistakes), talking things through and compromise. Narcissists don't do that. Instead of self reflection they give lectures about what you are doing wrong and how it is all your fault. Instead of talking things out, it is about the silent treatment (a form of abuse that ends relationships, and if it doesn't, it becomes a trauma-bonded relationship that is still likely to end, if further down the road). Instead of compromise it will always be about their need to gain dominance and control over you. 

These should be unacceptable terms in your close personal relationships, especially in light of the fact that what you approached them about is something that hurt you. Instead of dealing with the hurt (whether they were gaslighting, or cheating, or being unjust), the narcissist or sociopath decides to hurt you more. 

So, why are they hurting you more instead of resolving things between you? The short explanation it is: "Okay, since you don't idealize me any more, I don't idealize you any more either! In fact, I devalue you!" They won't say it, but they will show you. Many narcissists are playing tit-for-tat games like this a lot of the time, for any slight they feel. Their relationships tend to be transactional, and their emotional make-up tends to be immature, so tit-for-tat games are just another Junior High Mean Kids kind of transaction. It is important to know this before you confront them. 

When you reach the conclusion that what they want is a tit-for-tat game, it tends to make you more disillusioned, which brings out even more rage and destruction in them. Instead of being some pillar where their words have clout, they don't care about their integrity any more: all they want is to be a destructive hurtful force in your life. When you experience this, it is shocking. It can happen even if you were hitherto their dear spouse or their dear child. It is no longer about a resolution, or even about a relationship; it is about protecting yourself at all costs, period, from their unethical styles of attack. Again, they think of your confronting them as a call to arms, and they will use what ever their constitutions dictate, which can be pretty dark, including ramping up more and more cruelty, and in some cases, stalking you, stealing from you, violence, and other crimes.

In this way they act like addicts: if they can't have their junkie dose of getting idealized by you and controlled by them, then you are at the very least "useless" (one of their favorite phrases for people who are not serving their narcissistic supply needs) or at most, they punish you for not giving them their hit of narcissistic supply by volleying egregious never-ending attacks. 

So what are their unethical styles of attack? The most common ones are (taken from the same article by Alexander Burgemeester):

* Aggressive Outbursts: An aggressive outburst can take the form of intimidation, overtalking their victim, yelling, threats of harm, throwing objects and verbal abuse.

* Violent Outbursts: Violence typically takes place when narcissistic rage gets to an uncontrollable level and they feel they have no other outlet apart from physical force. The violence is either towards their victim or themselves.

* Passive Aggressive Behaviour: This is a more subtle form of rage, but it is equally as damaging. Passive aggression involves giving their partner the silent treatment, backstabbing, agreeing to do something important and then denying it when the time comes. Gaslighting, orchestrating someone’s failure, procrastinating and guilt-tripping.

He goes on to list others:

The smear campaign, doing a disappearing act, stalking you, humiliating you, lying and denying, baiting and provoking. 

In the end he points out the dangers:

Do narcissists destroy who they can’t control? The answer to this question depends on the type of narcissist you are dealing with. Narcissism is a spectrum Personality disorder, the higher up the spectrum they are, you can expect an all-out war when they can’t control their victims. A word of caution, if you are dealing with a high spectrum narcissist, you might want to be very strategic about how you plan your exit.

If your partner has ever been violent, there is a high chance you are dealing with a more severe type of narcissist, and in situations like this, I wouldn’t risk it, instead, I would advise that you seek legal assistance in the form of getting a restraining order. In this way, you can more or less guarantee your safety.

Either way, once you are confronted with the reality of who your partner is, you need to make some quick decisions about whether to remain in the relationship, because it is exceptionally rare for a narcissist to change.

Another way to tell if they are high on the spectrum is whether the abuse is reactive or proactive:

Reactive abuse tends to be momentary, impulsive. They might verbally abuse, but then apologize for losing it later. This type of abuser tends to be lower on the spectrum ... However, if it is a cycle, they are not particularly low on the spectrum, or as likely to change. Most of all, be aware that reactive abuse can still be violent. Instead of verbal abuse, they become violent, and have regrets over their violence a day or so after. This is dangerous and at this point it does not matter whether they are low or high on the spectrum.

Proactive abuse is planned abuse (what is more often associated with Antisocial Personality Disorder, but narcissists tend to be in between, so they practice both reactive and proactive forms of abuse).

The best way to tell if someone might have a preponderance of Antisocial Personality Disorder traits is how sadistic they are. Sadism, planned attacks, no guilt or remorse for hurting others is more aligned with Antisocial Personality Disorder. Cruelty to animals and/or children and/or people with disabilities is another sign. Never apologizing is another sign. Lack of empathy and pathological lying is another trait. Phrases like "I would never lie to you" is another sign, especially when all of these other traits are visible. 

One of the things that keeps their perspectives in this tit-for-tat one way track is the disorder itself: the lack of empathy, the pursuit of dominance and control by betting on your capitulation throughout the relationship even under abusive attacks, the arrogance where they believe they are better than you are and better at running your life than you are (which is really their attempt to fulfill their own fantasies:  that they are your leader and that you are their follower), getting caught at blatantly unethical deeds, feeling entitled to get what they want at the expense of others, and gaslighting in order to make their victims feel incompetent about anything other than the narcissist's or sociopath's control and perspectives. So there are a lot more reasons they go for tit-for-tat games than simple devaluation.

HOW THEY TRY TO HANG ON TO DOMINANCE, POWER AND CONTROL

So, we have discussed rage as a tool they use to try to get people to do what they want. Rage is inherently scary, so it can work for awhile. In effect, they are saying, "I'll be scary and threaten them a whole lot with things that I have learned will hurt them, and through that method, they will do as I say."

The reason why it works in the short term is the same reason it works in a war: you threaten the enemy a bunch of times and if they don't give into the demands, they throw bombs at you, sanction you, make up stories about you to get an entire army to attack you, and so on. 

One thing they aren't smart about is that the victim will know that it is a war for the narcissist, and that the narcissist regards their victim as the enemy. In order to ward off the offensive from the attacking narcissist, you launch a defense: perhaps a security system, a neighborhood "watch", a police report, a police "watch", a family "watch", plans to thwart the narcissist from attacking again, various types of vigilance, or you slap a restraining order on him, which for first time offenders takes one prior warning - at least in the USA. 

So where is the domination, power and control that they were so desperate to obtain and hang on to after this kind of shielding? Some people make statements that narcissists are intelligent. But where is the intelligence when this is the obvious outcome? 

flying monkeys:

These are the narcissist's recruits and henchman, often obtained through love bombing. They tend to be brainwashed individuals who believe the lies the narcissist has told about you. These are not people who look into both sides of an issue. They tend to be belief oriented in the way that cult followers are. Narcissists are NOT going to be telling the truth about you, and they often slant their tales in such a way that they are the victim and you are the perpetrator. 

These are also the people that the narcissist blames if the attacks become criminal or highly immoral. In order to stay on that pedestal, they have to at least pretend that the attackers acted on their own behalf, and not on the narcissist's behalf. 

Where is the fulfillment of domination and control of you in that? 

Yes, they have flying monkeys who they are getting domination and control over, who are acting like little helpful puppet soldiers, and the narcissist seemingly has the ability to control the army, and even control the perspectives of the army, but it is all based on lies. The narcissist is again, risking their reputation on lies that they may or may not be caught at. These aren't relationships that will ever be close, enlightening, full of trust and iron-clad promise. Not bright either, nor anything to be proud of.

For the original victim, this is a disgusting nauseating display, as well as a desperate one where the narcissist's every relationship seems to be based on lies. It comes to our realization too: "Wow! They can't be authentic at anything or with anyone! What meaningful relationship can come about when it is based on a pile of lies and brainwashing just to hurt another person outside of their orbit! Wow, I must be important if they want to send out a brainwashed army to attack me!" - you are that important. Their revenge fantasies can become an obsession, which is why some of them turn into stalkers or hoover-ers who try to love bomb you back in order to fulfill more revenge fantasies. 

What it does in the end is to make having power and control over you again an impossible goal for them to achieve. They also tend to lose some of their recruits when the truth becomes more apparent. Brainwashed people tend not to be sadistic, so that is another area where the narcissist can fall hard.

smear campaigns:

Smear campaigns aren't very effective at getting you to recruit yourself again to their power and control fantasies. It produces the same kind of nausea in their victims that flying monkeys do. 

love bombing: 
 
Eventually love bombing isn't a very good tool either. Victims get wary of it. It becomes just another invite into the idealize, devalue, destroy cycle that the narcissist is getting to be known for. It doesn't matter how many flowers and kisses there are (for partners in this mess). It doesn't matter how many bogus promises and "Everyone loves their child" meaningless phrases they spout (for children who have endured enough). 

Victims get cynical: "Oh, you love me, do you? Nothing like a lot of lies, destruction, and abuse to convince me that this is love! Who do you take me to be? Stupid? I would never go back to you! I wipe you from my life forever! Get lost!"

Where is their intelligence when it comes to this? Do they think that love bombing is an automatic smoothing tool they can use with the same effectiveness and results over and over again? Do they really think their victims are going to ignore the back-stabbing when it comes to this? 

verbal, emotional, and physical attacks:

VERBAL: The reason they attack you verbally (which really means they are attempting to attack your self esteem) is that they want to convince you that you are so flawed that you need to take orders from them, learn behavior and etiquette lessons from them, learn how to talk to other people in a way that will make them happy, and learn that the only way you will survive in their company is to be dominated by them. The movie, "Sleeping With the Enemy" demonstrates this pretty well. In that movie, the wife of an abuser has to put away cans on a shelf with military precision or he will show his dissatisfaction. He is always correcting her on this "flaw". She also has to make sure every towel hangs in perfect precision too. Micro-managing the actions of others in every detail of domestic life is common in relationships with a domestic violence offender (called coercive control), and a pompous expectation of the abuser since they make it clear they cannot even control themselves, particularly when it comes to their rages. Their messy abuses, their putrid plans to take down their victims, their mucky lies, rebellions, crimes and etiquette is often in blatantly stark contrast to what they are trying to teach, that their lessons become laughable, and the wife in that movie makes it plain that it is laughable too when she has a little fun messing with the towels in the bathroom. 

So where is their intelligence in implementing this? The narcissist is practically screaming: "Never mind my blatant hypocrisies, and the fact that I'm insulting you so much to smash your self esteem to get you to do what I demand! Just follow my orders anyway! Just make me happy in the relationship since I'm the important member of the relationship here, and you're not! You're just the servant! Got that?" - Really!? Anyone with half a brain is not going to fall for this line of BS after awhile.

EMOTIONAL: Emotional abuse looks much the same as verbal abuse except that instead of trying to do destruction to your self esteem directly, they try to destroy your self esteem indirectly. They try to meddle with perceptions of what is happening instead.  They try "dirty tricks" to make it seem that you are going insane. They try to convince you that your insanity means they have a right and an obligation to control you. While you wouldn't appear to be insane unless they played "tricks" on you, this can be pretty evil. This is called gaslighting and it is extremely common for narcissists and sociopaths to use to get you under their domination, control and spell. They will do everything they can to convince you that all of their domination and control is for your benefit too, when it's really only for their benefit. Gaslighting takes "planning", and insidious reminders to the victim that they are insane and disabled by their insanity, so it is usually categorized as "proactive abuse".
   It's also about brainwashing, so that you look at them as your holier-than-thou cult leader. 
   It is less obvious than verbal abuse, because just like the movie Gaslight, you may come to believe you are actually insane because your abuser will have drastically different perceptions than you do over the same events. 
   Being gaslighted can also effect your self esteem: "I'm nothing but a crazy imbecile who needs someone to lead the way and take control of everything I do and say because I can't think straight or see reality for what it is. Supposedly I'm living in a world of hallucinations!" Wow, is that an evil thing to do to someone! And that is when the power and control agenda becomes really dark. 
   Someone who is gaslighted is likely to find out about it when they go places and do things where their perceptions are not being questioned or challenged at all, or when they go into therapy. It used to be that before the mid 1980s that parents and spouses who gaslighted could get their child or marital partner committed to an insane asylum, to shirk the responsibilities of marriage or parenthood, just like in the movie. Now they gaslight just to achieve ultimate control, to have a puppet, with the reasoning that ultimate control will not necessitate abandonment of their partner or child. In a way, gaslighting has gotten worse because the people who want to shirk responsibilities are using gaslighting in extreme ways to make up for NOT abandoning. One reason why some narcissists don't want to abandon underage children or a spouse is because they don't want it to sully their reputation that they have been touting as being a model spouse or a model parent. They have invested their image in being a model, or even better at being a spouse or parent than anyone else (to inspire envy in others, and thereby tendencies to worship), so to withstand their natural instinct to abandon, they gaslight in extreme ways instead. 
   Isolating their spouse via false narratives and triangulation, and home-schooling their children so that they won't experience anything other than their abuser's gaslighting then becomes the agenda. It is power and control on steroids, so it is an ultimate toxic unhealthy relationship for the victim directly and the perpetrator indirectly. 
   Other emotional abuses include constant shaming, constant blaming, invalidation of your feelings and thoughts ("only I know what you feel and think" kinds of messages from your abuser - which is also another form of gaslighting), triangulation (where you are compared unfavorably to someone else), false gossip (it can be anything, but it generally tends to be about how crazy you are so that they can get narcissistic supply in the way of sympathy), broken promises (particularly in the way of "future faking": promising something in the future and making sure it never materializes), bullying and blackmail practices and the silent treatment usually accompanied by stonewalling. 
   All of this adds up to pain inside the victim, and the perpetrator knows it, so it is just another predictable scheme to administer pain in the hope that they will gain complete, never-ending domination and control over the victim. 

Victims who are in these situations too long develop trauma symptoms. That becomes a liability to the abuser (they are called upon to care in order to maintain the relationship, and they don't do that, nor do they want to do that), so in the end they try a carpet bombing approach form of attack with all of the abuses that they can think of to get the victim to give into the demands the abuser wants, and the way the victim used to deliver. When this doesn't work, they can either ramp up attacks by stalking, or appear deflated and default to abandoning you to look for another victim who will do a better job of giving them the power, domination and control that they want. 
   The reason it doesn't work is because it's like punching out someone who is bruised and scabbed from head to toe and lying in a hospital bed. Not much narcissistic supply in that.

The way that emotional abuse isn't smart is for the same reasons that verbal abuse doesn't work over the long term. The primary objective is to bombard you with pain, plus confusion, and as we know, a person who is in pain is not going to be feeling well at all, with emotional, mental and physical symptoms, not exactly capable of narcissistic supply administrations. Someone who is deeply hurt and traumatized will have, as their main objective, healing. They can't heal when they are still in the company of a person who is hell-bent on hurting them again and manipulating them in ways that are totally self-serving. Plus, being around an abuser sets off even more symptoms: it is the body's alarm system.

Perhaps some narcissists know what they put their victims through, but I would bet a majority don't. Besides being unempathetic, putting their domination addiction front and center in their relationships so that they are blind to anything else, and a penchant for giving the silent treatment, I have a feeling they don't really have a clue. Many, many survivors of abuse report that they never felt their abuser ever knew them. They thought that the only thing their abuser ever really understood about them was what their vulnerabilities were, what they could obtain and not obtain from them, and which buttons to push to get a reaction. It was about how much the abusers could penetrate personal boundaries, and that's it. That's not much enlightenment. 

People who have managed to de-sensitize to their abuser instead of being effected by them, who have many other family members or friends who understand what is going on and take up the slack of a deeply unsatisfying and rigid relationship, who spend the least amount of time with their abusers, and who rarely listen with open ears to what their abusers say, often report that they got bored with them. Yes, bored. These abusers tended to be on the lighter part of the spectrum, but the tactics were so predictable and incredibly obvious that they found them more yawn-inducing than painful, traumatizing, disappointing or disillusioning. They still related to their abusers, but not in any kind of deep meaningful way. "Whatever" and "You don't say" and "That's interesting" became their predictable unemotional responses to the narcissist, and not much beyond that. Their deepest relationships were always on the outside of these relationships. So this doesn't add up to much domination and control in any real sense of the word either.

As for the silent treatment, which I have written about at some length, it is a passive aggressive form of abuse. It seems to be used by narcissists and sociopaths on their adult children the most. A great deal of the time it is used as a form of punishment: "If you don't give me more power, control and domination over you, at least to the point that I had when you were still a young child, and do what I want at all times including adhering to the role I have assigned you, I don't want to have anything to with you!" They don't say that directly, but they make it pretty clear that these are the terms. So what I have seen is that the adult child apologizes to the narcissist when the adult child did not do anything wrong. So they feel they are being forced into an apology they do not own. It certainly smooths things over, and that's the only reason for the apology, but it tends to create a lot of resentment inside the victim. The resentment exists because not only was there nothing to apologize for, but silent treatments typically are administered under duress such as when there is an important event being planned (like a wedding) or when the victim is going through a tragic time (like the death of someone near and dear to them). The apology only works for a little while until the narcissist gives the silent treatment again (and they predictably always do it again - remember that the amount of power and control is never enough for these people - it's an addiction where they need higher doses of it, always). Also, most silent treatments are given for erroneous reasons, or they are given as a guessing game: "You know what you did wrong! Don't tell me you are too stupid not to know the reason!" - which is another form of gaslighting. So, eventually the silent treatment becomes a permanent state, an estrangement. The victim experiences pain and many trauma symptoms every time it is doled out, plus resentment, and it breaks the relationship bond forever.

So, how does the narcissist or sociopath gain power and control from this bad idea? It doesn't seem all that smart either. They know that this abuse tactic will hurt their adult child, certainly, but they don't know much beyond that: they don't know enough about human behavior and the human condition to make this work in the way they want it to. 

I think I have demonstrated why administering any kind of emotional pain does not work in any way that will bring a narcissist or sociopath their pie-in-the-sky dreams for ultimate power.

There is a reason why therapists trained in domestic abuse tell their clients to walk away from these relationships (before trauma symptoms take a big foot-hold, and knowing that perpetrators like to re-use and recycle these same predictable abuses over and over again). 

PHYSICAL: Physical abuse is also about power, control and domination, but instead of trying to smash up your self esteem or reduce you to an insane imbecile, it is used to intimidate you and dominate you instead, physically. Abusers who prefer physical abuse usually have victims who are shorter, or less brawny, or who have some physical, emotional or cognitive disabilities. They also tend to choose victims where they perceive a power imbalance (where they have the advantage). They don't pick on people their own size, in other words. 

Physical abuse most often follows a period of verbal and emotional abuse, and a lot of unsolicited lectures where you are being expected to follow the directives of the abuser. It tends to manifest as in-your-face rage, with a lot of guilt-trips, in other words, close proximity rage (shouting in a way where it is as loud as it can be, spitting out the words to the point where the spit lands on your face). The abuser gets angry and comes towards you in a way where the head comes forward, the fists clench, the upper torso and neck muscles tighten, and he gets loud, extremely loud, and usually a lot of insults follow. In other words, it is breaking the physical boundary that would connote a more respectful discourse. And that's the problem from the very beginning: a respectful relationship is sacrificed by the abuser in order to intimidate you to give in to them. 

During the rage and directives, they are also infantilizing you. Infantilization means that they are treating you as though you are still a child (when you aren't) who needs to be told by a big daddy or big mommy figure about what to do and how to behave. Infantilizing means it is happening in adult relationships: marital abuse, sibling abuse and workplace abuse are the most common forms of infantilization, but it can happen between a parent and an adult child too. Infantilization is inappropriate to the age, education, intelligence and status of the victim.

Physical abusers tend have grandiose overt narcissistic traits. However, darker Machiavellian personalities can also be physical abusers (for instance malignant narcissists), but in order to qualify, there are also planned attacks. Since narcissism is on a spectrum, the abuser can be mostly of the grandiose overt type, but if they never apologize for their attacks, never are concerned how these attacks are effecting their victims, and they exhibit some propensity for planned ways of hurting their victims, or if they steal (especially stealing items like photographs and mementos as opposed to food, for instance), you are most likely dealing with someone who has traits of secondary psychopathy

Like all abusers, grandiose narcissists will be giving you "behavior lectures", i.e. that you need to adopt certain behaviors to make them happy. Behavior lectures are also a sign of infantilization. However, the physical abuser tends to give behavior lectures much more frequently than other types of abusers, on the whole, and it can sometimes be at every encounter. These abusers also tend to be micro-managers: they take on the role of the despotic boss who must comment on whether you are doing something right or wrong, while you are expected to be the servant. Like most abusers, roles are everything to them

Just about everything has to go their way after they put you in a role or they rage. Again, the rage is going to be intimidating, in your face, so you will definitely feel you are walking on eggshells. Most victims keep quiet, and do everything that is expected of them (up to a point) to keep the abuser from going into a rage again. However, I discuss fighting back a little later in the post, which some victims will do at the very beginning of being physically abused. 

But assuming the victim isn't fighting back, and the victim mostly goes silent, the perpetrator is still very likely to rage again, over increasingly erroneous reasons, and then again, and again. They basically turn into rage-a-holics (addicted to rage to get their way). It seems that after awhile everything is deserving of rage and derision in their eyes. Grandiose narcissists are also people who only care about gaining power, control and domination, but it is a lot more of an obvious manifestation than the gaslighter, for instance. You can actually see that they are dangerous from the beginning when they engage in physical abuse unlike the gaslighter who can get away with gaslighting for a much longer period of time. 

And predictably men who are physically abusive become more and more dangerous (except if you are doing absolutely everything they want you to do, and help them bully others to some extent).  

At some point when they are raging in your face, there is likely to be a push (usually to your shoulder) accompanied by words such as "Do as I say!", "Do it now!", "Get going!" and so on. Other favorite phrases are "You're selfish!", "You're useless!", "You're driving me crazy!" (when you are emotional yourself), "You think you are so special!", "You're no good!", "I don't have time for your drama!" If they are also alcoholics, they tend to swear a whole lot too, and do not have the capacity to understand the reality of a situation, especially when they are drunk. 

The grandiose narcissist seems like they are not in control of their emotions at all, however, like most narcissists they will be emotionally regulated in public and with people they don't know yet. Grandiose narcissists can be very two-faced, overflowing with flattery in situations they aren't comfortable in, but hyper critical and insulting behind other peoples' backs. If you see the nasty side of them, this is their true self because they don't come out of the nasty side of their personality until they have something to socially gain from a situation. They are also insufferable braggarts who give advice about subjects they know very little about. 

This happened to me once. I was in the presence of a grandiose narcissist who was giving all kinds of advice to a teenager who wanted to be an artist. Her father was an artist, and I had a masters degree in the subject. He went on and on and on, acting like an expert in the subject, with a syrupy delivery (pretending to care a great deal about her fate), but had no idea of what he was talking about. It was all I could do to hold back my disgust. So grandiose narcissists love to grand-stand and make a big impression, but most often they are more like the Emperor with No Clothes.  

Anyway, the physical abuse starts with pushing and shoving. Some of how they behave is also to pull you in a direction where they will demand an action from you when you get there. Also common is grabbing objects out of your hand. They might handle both of your shoulders and turn you around when you are walking in a different direction. They tend to grab you to scare you. Some other kinds of beginning physical abuses are pushing you up against a wall, pushing you against a door, pushing you aside to get to where they want to go. Generally there are other kinds of unsolicited touching. Grandiose narcissists can give hugs and pat you on the head or back, but they also tend to do a lot of pushing, shoving, standing in doorways with their fists clenched so that you can't get past, and all kinds of other actions to let you know that they are in control and they are in a rage. 

All of this happened to me with Johnny (not his real name) - I talk about Johnny in this post. I went to a domestic violence counselor when these beginning types of physical abuses were happening to me about how to handle the situation. I actually down-graded what was happening: "Doesn't he have to slug me first for it to count as physical abuse?" And his answer was, "Not at all. That's coming next if you stay in this situation. This is what we see. If someone was pushing and shoving you on a street, and someone saw it and called the police, the police would have him arrested! This is illegal! It's a crime! And when there is pushing and shoving, it usually escalates very fast to slugging. The slugging could start in a week. Is this what you want? You are in an especially dangerous situation because he also has a major drinking problem because alcoholics can see hostility in facial expressions that aren't there. They can also have blackouts where they are violent and don't know it until they wake up in jail." 

He was also a favorite golden child in his family of origin, meaning that he wasn't going to change, and that the parents who anointed him that role would side with him no matter what, enabling him to be a domestic violence offender. 

I was not surprised when I confronted Johnny about his behavior and asked how his present wife handled it and his answer was, "She does what I tell her to do!" I was also not surprised when Johnny's ex-wife said she had left over an escalating domestic violence situation with him, and when I learned one of his kids was punched in the stomach by him while in a shower getting ready for school. There is a lot more to the "Johnny story", but the main point was that when I began my research project into domestic violence, I found I was given the right advice: get out when the pushing and shoving start, or preferably before.

Pushing begins because the narcissist doesn't feel they have enough power, control and domination over you, and they think this is the ticket to getting it. Like all narcissists, they always want more power, and with the grandiose narcissist, they usually do not have the patience to wait for it (unlike the emotional abuser or the covert abuser who has a lot of patience to get you incrementally gaslighted and under their control). Not having patience has everything to do with why it escalates so fast into slugging, and other forms of egregious physical attacks. 

Warning, if they put your hands around your throat, or chin, or face, or attempt to strangle you, this is a particularly dangerous sign that you are in a life-threatening situation. 

As for the impulse to fight back ...

So, let's say the perpetrator has shoved you at the shoulder in a rage. The natural impulsive inclination is to defend yourself by shoving his shoulder. You defend yourself by showing that you are on equal footing and that you won't be his victim. The reason why this impulse happens is because when you don't fight back, your system will launch into trauma responses. But, here's the problem with acting on impulse: as I've said, narcissists who physically abuse usually choose victims who are smaller than they are. They aren't going to shove around a big male who is 6'8", has huge muscles and weighs 300 pounds when they are only six feet tall. One reason male perpetrators tend to choose women is that they are usually smaller, are more likely to default into pleasing behaviors to ward off attacks, and because of societal attitudes about women (that women are property or inferior), that if you want to take your rage out on someone, you take it out on a woman instead of a man as Jonathan Katz's book so well illustrates. 

If you leave, one of the things that domestic violence offenders are known for is their apologies to their victim, usually holding a bouquet of flowers (unless they have some Antisocial Personality Disorder traits where they won't be apologizing at all unless they want to draw you in to attack you). However, the apology is just another manifestation of future faking where it is designed to get the victim back into role again, and back into another round of dominance and violence (the idealize, devalue, destroy cycle). Some of them may initially mean it when they say they want you back, but if you listen closely, they will also make excuses for their behavior ("It's just the way I am; I just fly off the handle!" and other sorts of statements about why they are unable to control their emotions and why they can't compromise - but remember that they don't act that way in public). 

One reason why physical abuse doesn't work over the long term in getting steady narcissistic supply in the way of power, control and domination is because it is dangerous. Most women who are in domestic violence situations want to get out. And on top of it all, many of them get restraining orders too. Plus the behavior lessons and lectures are absurd from someone who physically abuses. So, that doesn't seem all that smart either. 

You have to wonder why anyone would want victims, especially estranged victims who want nothing to do with them and use police to get rid of them (sullying the perpetrator's reputation). As I've said before, narcissists sort of survive like this, but this doesn't add up to a life of happiness. Grandiosity is the closest they get to happiness, but when their grandiosity is chipped away by victims who have no respect for them, and can't stand to be around them, they are pathetic. 

FINANCIAL: Financial abuse happens in 98 percent of all abusive relationships. The problem with being dependent, co-dependent, or trauma bonded to an abuser is that he will want to control the money to control you. If you are the breadwinner, he (or she) will find excuses to take it from you to pile up reserves in his or her name only. If they are the bread winner, every minute financial purchase will be vetted. 
   Finances are often used to threaten too. "If you don't do what I tell you to do, and do it exactly how I want it, you won't get another cent!" or "If you don't do what I tell you to do, and do exactly how I want it, I'll get a divorce from you and take your money away from you!"
   If you get a high paying job to counter it, narcissists and sociopaths are known to try to sabotage it.
   If you don't live with them, it's best not to talk about your successes and failures in your career or in your finances. In fact, the more you can keep your career and finances in the dark, the better.
   The problem for victims in these situations is that it puts you in an unstable financial position, constantly. The perpetrator's emotions and actions are unstable, and then you have to deal with financial instability too. It's a giant whiplash of instability on a constant basis. 
   One reason why so many women stopped being home-makers and raising children as their full time occupation was because of financial instabilities like this. They felt vulnerable, so they went out to earn their own paycheck. As long as the society is misogynistic and excuses men for abusive behaviors, it makes sense for women to be financially autonomous. You also have more solid ground not to put up with abuse. And peace in this way can transform your life. Again, abusers only pick on people who they think are weaker than themselves, including being vulnerable to financial attacks. 
   The reason why financial abuse does not work at maintaining or gaining power, control or domination for abusers is because it is a painful whiplash for the victim, who will react to the whiplash by becoming trained and financially autonomous.

NARCISSISTS AND SOCIOPATHS
BELIEVE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST LIKE THEM
AND WHY IT SHOULD MATTER TO THE REST OF US

 Narcissists and sociopaths really do believe that others are just like them, with one caveat: they think the majority of people are more stupid and crazy than they are. At the very least they think that the rest of us wish we were just like them. 

The rates of narcissism are going up in the country, which tends to happen when parents, as a whole, isolate their children (alienation), become more selfish ("me first"), more abuse-oriented in solving problems, more rage-oriented, more neglect-oriented and less family oriented, where family estrangements and divorces are becoming the norm, the rates for all of the Cluster B personality disorders will go up, including narcissism and sociopathy. You can't starve a population of children where the only attention they get is rage, criticism, inconsistency, strong-arming, abuse, estrangements,  insults, and isolation, and expect a good outcome. You'll even get tyrannical despotic authoritarian national leaders and people who think it's a good idea to kill other people over differing political viewpoints, or a facial expression, or a disability, or a different cultural background - take your pick.

So in terms of close personal relationships, what does it mean in terms of how they treat you? 

WHEN YOU ARE ANGRY:

We know that narcissists and sociopaths feel anger when their domination and superiority is being questioned and threatened. They must keep their grandiose egos intact; they must keep believing that they are "the special golden god", the one who can control and dominate everyone in sight. It is why they rage when you are resisting being controlled and dominated, and when you start questioning whether they should be an advisor to anything in your life at all. In contrast, the rest of the population tends to get angry when there is an injustice committed against them, or people who they cherish. They have healthy egos and they don't have to resort to an inauthentic life of lies, cover-ups, distortions and plans to hurt and dominate others. However, since narcissists believe everyone is just like them, when you get angry, they will take it to mean that you are trying to control them. They want to be on top, so your anger will infuriate them and that is when you see callous disregard. They won't see that you feel  injustice. This is also why, when they sense anger in you, they escalate it to a power struggle, even an outright war - they think it is about who can destroy the other person the most. It is important to know this. The communication fails because they are putting their own stamp on what you are going through (because they think they have superior knowledge, superior psychic abilities, superior intelligence, superior everything). This is why they don't know you. This is why they don't get you. This is why they don't care about what you are going through. This is why they shut you down when you are trying to tell them what you really think and feel. You run up against their wall of arrogance, where the only thing they will accept is that they know what everyone feels and thinks. They'll even come right out and say it. It is called perspecticide and invalidation and it is primarily associated with narcissists and sociopaths. Normal folks can slip into it every once in awhile, especially if they are lied to a lot, but with narcissists it is on-going, a part of their very personality, and in their every day interactions with others.

They are, in effect, speaking a different language.

WHEN YOU ARE HURT AND CRYING: 

When you cry, the same sort of thing is happening. While you are feeling pain, and crying because of it, many narcissists, and especially those with Anti Personality Disorder traits, will "fake cry". They also love to pretend that they are victims of their victims. They love to turn things around so that when they discard you, they are telling others that you discarded them instead (do you see how much they mirror?). So when they see you cry, they think you are "fake crying." That is why they don't show you empathy and why they tell you to stop irritating them with your crying, that they aren't going to listen to it. They aren't listening to it because they manipulate people with fake crying, so they assume that is what you are doing too. This is sometimes why a grandiose narcissist might hit you when you cry. 

So, let us say that you are crying because you were victimized by someone else. You were raped, or someone stole your money - it can be anything. They don't believe that you were victimized, because they play the victim just to get attention. So, they think you are just trying to get attention. 

And they know exactly what they are doing when they try to make their victims appear to be perpetrators - it is a plan to get out of being accountable. So, after you are victimized, they are going to be calloused because they think you are pretending to be victimized too. It is also why they sometimes lecture you, and tell you that the abuse was your fault. It is also why they tell you to apologize to your abuser (extremely common, especially for narcissists): it is their way of saying they believe you are faking it. 

But they also "just plain like it" if you are forced into apologizing to your abuser. They see it as a "sucker sign" that you might apologize to them when they abuse you too. 

They also think that when you share your hurts with them, that you are trying to enlist them as a co-bully, because that is what they do when they are telling someone they were victimized. They see your hurts and tears as a power-and-control move because when they are down on power, control and domination, they cry and tell others they were victimized by the people who won't hand over their autonomy willingly and let the narcissist control them. 

So if you are getting un-empathetic calloused responses, this is why. 

This is the problem with living a life as a narcissist, full of lies, half truths, fantasies and distortions where the only thing you care about is getting narcissistic supply, power and control, and fooling everyone as to who you really are. 

WHY THEY THINK YOU ARE LESS INTELLIGENT:

They rate intelligence in terms of how well a person can get what they want: rewards, wealth, children who worship them, a spouse who can worship them, how many notches on the bed post they can obtain (for somatic narcissists, both male and female), how well they can twist stories and make up stories without detection that put them in a superior position. 

They don't necessarily measure intelligence in terms of knowledge, but they certainly don't like it when someone appears to be a lot more knowledgeable than they are, which is why they turn into arrogant blowhards as in the example above. They try to fake their way through being knowledgeable about a subject they really don't know anything about. They also take it as an ego hit when someone points out that the narcissist doesn't know what they are talking about. They also try to manage their children's careers, hopes and dreams in such a way that is best for them, not the child. Narcissistic parents should never be the managers of anything because of their propensity to serve their own egos, but they should especially not be the managers of their children's careers. I'll be talking about why in another post. 

Now in terms of why they think everyone except them is so stupid, and why they idealize themselves as the pinnacle of intelligence ... It is because they think they are doing power, control and domination better than anyone else. Most of us could care less about whether we have power, control and domination over others. We are happy with peace, stability, working together, compromises where everyone has a say and can be fulfilled, real love, and real work (rather than using work, and workers in triangulation games, and using the workplace as a bullying playground). Peace, love and stability comes with empathy.

Case in point: Let us say that the narcissist is caught: they aren't as knowledgeable about a subject as they are pretending, they aren't as steadfastly committed as they are pretending either, and they keep getting fired from their jobs (but they tell you it is always the boss's fault, that their talents are being overlooked - even though you may suspect it is because they got into a power struggle with their bosses instead), in fact it is pretty clear they aren't the person they have advertised themselves to be at all. So why do narcissists think that a pile of lies, fooling others, bullying others, and being so blinded by an addiction to power and control, and pretending to be someone they aren't, and all kinds of downfalls from grace, is such an intelligent way to be?

It turns out that the most intelligent among us have high amounts of empathy. This is a subject I'll be covering in more detail later, but for now: 

You can see from what I've written in the last two sections (anger and hurt), that they are incapable of understanding what other people are going through. They don't get that everyone is different. They don't get that most people do not want to be narcissists or sociopaths. They don't get that we aren't jealous of them (that it is a fantasy in their minds). They don't even get who most people are. They wouldn't have to practice perspecticide and invalidation so much if they truly knew. The only way they would have knowledge of what we are going through with our feelings, and thoughts, is to have empathy. They don't have empathy, nor do they want it, so they stay blind. They might know piles of facts, and remember the facts that seem to work in getting them into a real or alternatively "emperor without clothes" type of dominant position, but other than that, they are the least able to understand other people aside from how they can manipulate them and put them into a role. Narcissists who have woken up a little bit from so many people walking away from them, leaving them feeling stranded and alone, do start to wonder why so many people have left. When situations hit them hard, they are capable of not playing the victim. Some of them even begin to understand how they caused it on a cognitive level, but if they are still being enabled by someone, they will never get it. 

The enabled ones are the bitter old people who glare at their victims with hatred on their deathbeds.   
    
WHY THEY THINK YOU ARE CRAZY:

The reason why they think you are crazy is because, in their minds, you let them gaslight you and convince you that you are crazy. Only a crazy person could not see through the gaslighting agenda and manipulation. So after awhile, they believe that you truly are crazy. You have been talked into it, whereas they would never have been talked into it, and would have fought back with every fiber of their being to convince everyone they weren't crazy. 

So, is being trusting being stupid? They think so. They live in a cesspool of untrustworthiness, including their own untrustworthiness. But do most people think it is stupid to trust? Actually trust is something most people expect in their close personal relationships, especially with a parent or spouse. And the high majority of close personal relationships are trustworthy and where trust can be expressed. We were actually built to trust in our closest people to survive (our ancient history). So, it isn't stupid to trust. Being untrustworthy is an aberration to group and community survival. The way you tell if someone is untrustworthy in a close personal relationship is if they are trying to hurt you, if they don't show signs of empathy, and if they are lying. 

However, when you grow up with a parent who likes to hurt you, and abandon you and is arrogant despite having hurt and abandoned you, you are going to normalize abuse and lack of empathy in relationships to some extent. Either you become that person yourself (become like they are), or you get married to a person who hurts you. That seems to be the trend. However, as long as you are aware that living in pain and unhappiness was pushed down your throat in childhood as being normal, and you finally understand that "normal" is being able to trust and to be trustworthy, then you can have the life you were meant to have: true trust, true love, and so on. You don't have to live in environments that are devoid of trust and happiness. And as long as you know the signs (lack of empathy, abuse, etc), you can steer away from people and a home environment like your original home environment that lacked all of that good stuff. I found happiness, and there are a lot of others who find it too even after the most grueling abusive unhappy childhood. 

Anyway, some narcissists do notice that other people are not nearly as concerned about gaining power, control and domination as they are. They think that's a deficiency, a disability. And the disability they come up with is that you are crazy. 

They also think you are crazy if you don't hold them in the highest esteem, when you think of them as an equal instead. "Are you kidding? As an equal? You have got to be crazy to think that you are as superior as I am! You don't have nearly the power and control over me as I have over you!" - those are the unspoken words (taken from narcissists who want to share their truth about how they think).

A group of us were talking about men who reach high places of power in government and who grope or accost women sexually. I mean really - how hard is it not to grope a woman? How hard is it to ask people if they are uncomfortable with how you touch them? But this is what happens: you pursue power and then feel entitled to treat other people badly, treat them as sex objects even (a role), and even hurt them. Then you fall from grace and disgust a whole lot of people. You are laughed at even. Rinse, repeat. This is how narcissists live too. So, those of us who don't want to live this way: are we crazy? Maybe they are actually the crazy ones and project it onto us.

IN CONCLUSION   

You can see how stuck their minds are on power, control and domination to the point where it is an obsession. It is the be-all and end-all desire for them (a desire that can never be fulfilled), and they think other people are stupid and crazy when it is not the be-all and end-all for them.

It is why they lack empathy; it is why they abandon the people closest to them; it is why they rage so much; it is why they give you the silent treatment; it is why they hit you; it is why they don't want to hear what you have to say; it is why they are so arrogant; it is why they can't find satisfaction in their relationships and why they resort to endless criticizing and gaslighting. It is what they want when they get up in the morning and when they go to sleep at night. In fact, every one of the tactics they use is to get more power and control, even, if it suits them, pathological lying, the one thing that is bound to get them "found out" and falling off of their fake self-made pedestal. 

However, when it is not the be-all and end-all, you actually are a lot less likely to have estranged children, or an unhappy marriage, or look at every relationship, every piece of land, every experience as an opportunity to manipulate and exploit. It is only when most of us realize this that we will have peace among human beings, and peace in the world.

  

Final note: my writing on how narcissists think and why they behave the way they do was inspired in part by Sam Vaknin's explanations of what is going on in the narcissist's mind (he's a self-proclaimed narcissist, and psychology professor, and tries to teach others what is going on, and is amply aware that narcissistic thinking is drastically different from how most of us think - he's even said that the narcissist's arrogance is a delusional shield for a human being that most resembles an empty shell, that narcissists believe that the arrogance and the pursuit of power is protecting them from a world of criticism and derision, the kind of criticism and derision that they dish out).   

New video since publishing this post (and the best I have found on this topic so far):
"The Hunger For Power That Drives Narcissists"
by psychologist Les Carter for "Surviving Narcissism":



"How Narcissists Are Bound By Their Own Need For Dominance"
by psychologist Les Carter for "Surviving Narcissism":
description:
A major feature of narcissism is the need to be in control. Or as Dr. Les Carter explains, narcissists don't just want to be in charge, they insist that you should be subordinate to them. But because their tactics are so off-putting, they miss out on the aspects of life that truly matter. They eventually are tied down by their own egotism. Rather that succumbing to their dominance, you can see it for the misguided way of life that it represents, choosing freedom over their efforts to confine you.

What is "coercive control"? (Glossary of Narcissistic Relationships)
by Dr. Ramani Durvasula
please note that after this video aired
Hawaii passed laws about coercive control,
and coercive control laws are being considered in California and New York.
Hopefully these kinds of laws will be passed nationwide too.


"9 Signs Someone is a Narcissist"
by PsychToGo:


"7 Signs Someone Is A Sociopath"
by PsychToGo:


"The insults you hear in a narcissistic relationship"
by Dr. Ramani Durvasula:


FURTHER READING:

When The Narcissist Can’t Control You Anymore, This Happens - by psychologist Alexander Burgemeester


14 Thought-Control Tactics Narcissists Use to Confuse and Dominate You - by Dan Neuharth, Ph.D., MFT for Psych Central

Ten Ways Narcissists Take Control - by Leslie Glass for "Reach Out Recovery"


How Narcissists Control You. What Techniques Do They Use? - by Taylor Bennett for Counseling News


How to stop psychopaths and narcissists from winning positions of power - by Steve Taylor, Senior Lecturer in Psychology, Leeds Beckett University for The Conversation

Narcissists and psychopaths: how some societies ensure these dangerous people never wield power - by Steve Taylor, Senior Lecturer in Psychology, Leeds Beckett University for The Conversation

Power and control in the male antisocial personality - by Linda L. Nauth (professional article)

A personality disorder of excessive power strivings - by W. Charney for PubMed.gov (professional article and a proposal for the DSM)


How to Recognize Coercive Control - a Healthline article


What are the Signs of Coercive Control? - Medically reviewed by Janet Brito, Ph.D., LCSW, CST — Written by Louise Morales-Brown for Medical News Today

What Is Coercive Control in a Relationship? - by  Brunilda Nazario, MD for WebMD

Friday, June 9, 2017

sociopaths and children



Note: the correct term for sociopath is Antisocial Personality Disorder. A lot of people use the term sociopath, however, because of its easiness of use.

While this blog is primarily focused on narcissists, bullies and alcoholics with anger management issues, I thought this topic was important to cover if only because one finds that narcissists are often paired with another Cluster B personality disordered person in some way, at some time, either a borderline or sociopath.

You may want to read my posts on what abuse is and narcissists and children to get some background before proceeding with this post.

I also cite articles and further reading below and as of 6/7/20, I decided to feature a video by Dr. Les Carter and Dr. Lee Carter about how narcissism can be similar and different from sociopathy.

As for the pairing of Cluster B personality types, generally narcissists tend to find themselves with borderlines because borderlines are more common than sociopaths.

Unenlightened borderlines sometimes find themselves as accomplices to narcissists, especially in the way of enabling or helping the narcissist, but they are also inconsistent, chaotic, emotional and can be tearfully regretful and guilt-ridden after they have done something wrong even if willing to go along with the narcissist's agenda initially. In other words, narcissists often find that Borderlines are too unreliable in terms of carrying out bullying agendas, and other wishes of the narcissist. Narcissistic bullying tends to be more ineffective with the borderline than with the sociopath, because borderlines self reflect. However, narcissists like drama, and they like to blame anyone and everyone other than themselves, and they like to be dominant, and the borderline usually provides that.

Sociopaths, on the other hand, have no regrets about bullying. The drawback to the sociopath for the narcissist is that the sociopath tends to go overboard, unconcerned with social acceptability, isolating the narcissist from formerly "counted on" narcissistic supply, social standing and social acceptability. Sociopaths will do just about anything to get the narcissist to believe no one is good enough or grateful enough, and while the narcissist is rejecting people for these reasons, the sociopath is dividing and conquering and has all of the power and control in the relationship. In fact, most narcissists eventually realize the sociopath has stripped them dry, and has isolated them in the end. Since narcissists do not put the welfare of their children first, the harsh "punishments" that sociopaths are known for are likely to go unchallenged by the narcissist. The only time that the narcissist might challenge is when their social standing is suffering. Regardless, the sociopath usually gets his way in terms of how victims are treated and are to be perceived. Most narcissists learn to live with the sociopath's agenda, despite how empty and devoid of narcissistic supply their world becomes, because they know how retaliatory the sociopath can be if they withdraw from them. One of the reasons the sociopath tends to go overboard is to show the narcissist not to mess with him.

I talk more at the end of the post about why the sociopath-narcissist "bully team" should be abandoned.

Not all sociopaths are violent or break the law, but they are more likely to do so than anyone else. Whether they break the law largely depends on whether they were brought up in a stable home, and had financial and emotional security in that home. Sociopaths who break the law account for roughly 45 percent of all sociopaths (this can include reckless endangerment of a child, child neglect, and other child abuse crimes).

Sociopaths who come from stable homes and excel in school are often described as "high functioning sociopaths", the ones less likely to commit crimes.

According to Tanya J. Peterson (from this article):

High-functioning sociopaths are extremely skilled at faking emotion. Depending on the party and attendees, he manipulates by expressing a range of human emotion: happiness, joy, excitement, incredulity, shock, disappointment, sadness, and grief. If he wants to, a sociopath can cry. These false feelings are purely superficial. Non-sociopaths feel things on an emotional level as well as on a physical level. No butterflies flutter in a sociopath's stomach. He never feels his heart race in anticipation or pound in fear.

The shallow and insincere expressions of feeling are mere tools used by a sociopath to entrap people.


... A sociopath is incapable of feelings such as empathy, regret, and remorse. She doesn't experience emotional pain herself; thus, she can't understand the expression of those feelings in others ...

... Brain scans and imaging such as functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scans and electroencephalogram (EEG) tests show that the sociopathic brain doesn't register emotional words and pictures the way a "normal" brain does ...

... Beyond primitive emotions like anger and rage, sociopaths don't have feelings. Remarkably, their social skills are so honed, so highly developed, that no one can tell ...

As for the last sentence, domestic violence counselors who have a lot of experience dealing with perpetrators can often tell if someone is a sociopath, as the types of self expression have similarities between one sociopath and another. The acting skills of the sociopath can even be more easily detected. Most counselors also understand that with sociopaths, it is always more important to look at what they do and don't do, than what they say to explain away their actions. 

The high-functioning sociopaths are slightly harder to detect, especially if the sociopath is at all trained in social graces, psychology jargon and matters of the law (but there are ways a skilled professional can still get to the bottom of what is going on). According to the same author, from a different article, the high functioning sociopath is:

... adept at morphing themselves into what people want to see ... They very quickly learn what makes people tick, and they know just how to engineer and oil the clock. This type of sociopath
* has superior intelligence, as demonstrated by observed behavior and IQ tests;
* possesses impeccable social skills and exudes charm;
* often comes from a strong family background;
* is driven—she knows what she wants, and she knows how to get it ...


In other words, the higher functioning sociopaths tend to be educated. Here are some other signs (according to Steve Bressert, Ph.D. of Psych Central):

Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others. They may have an inflated and arrogant self-appraisal (e.g., feel that ordinary work is beneath them or lack a realistic concern about their current problems or their future) and may be excessively opinionated, self-assured, or cocky. They may display a glib, superficial charm and can be quite voluble and verbally facile (e.g., using technical terms or jargon that might impress someone who is unfamiliar with the topic) ...

Most articles on sociopaths describe a lack of remorse when hurting others as being the biggest sign of their disorder (in other words they try to explain it away). If they are not the perpetrator in an incident, a lack of appropriate response and empathy for people going through a tragedy, or in pain, is also a tell-tale sign. In speech they sound haughty, like know-it-alls. "They deserve what they had coming to them" is also a typical pronouncement of the sociopath, even when it comes to small children, pets and woodland animals. They are usually extremely opinionated as well, insisting that people adopt their opinions, often insulting people with opposing views from their own.

Anyone can see why a parent with this disorder will be woefully out of touch with his child's feelings and be a horrific parent. Since sociopaths do not have a range of emotion, they cannot understand the feelings of others, or how to respond to feelings. With so little emotional depth, and an inability to feel love and affection, sociopathic homes, at the very best, tend to be cold, extremely mannered, rigid with many members looking over their shoulder to see who will stab them in the back. There can be conversation in their homes, but they often insist on no emotional "coloring". Unfortunately, most sociopaths don't stop at the cold family environment: they tend to be predatory and abusive to all children. Like narcissists, they devalue and discard their children, but they tend to do it longer than narcissists do (years or a lifetime as compared to months). A small offense can mean permanent shunning. Their reasons for discards are usually different from narcissists too. Narcissists discard over issues having to do with lack of narcissistic supply (flattery) whereas sociopaths do it because they get bored or the child is "in the way" of something they want. Both narcissists and sociopaths can be sadistic about discards, but sociopaths more so because they can be completely devoid of regret; whereas narcissists can feel regret, at least as far as their images are concerned (social standing, prestige and not wanting to raise suspicions).

High functioning sociopaths are usually emotionally abusive to children at the very least, and care very little for their plight. They can also show very little feeling for the disabled, sick, innocents, animals and pets. If an empathetic child has a pet, for instance, the child can experience more trauma than usual by how the parent treats the pet. Many empathetic children try to protect their pet by insisting that the abuse meant for the pet be directed towards them (the child) instead.

What the child wants, what he is interested in, what he feels or thinks, is not anything the sociopathic parent cares about, or can care about, given their brain chemistry. Gifts given to children are never with good intentions; they are used for leverage, blackmail, IOUs and guilt trips only. Children learn to refuse gifts from these kinds of parents for those reasons. In forums, children of sociopaths find that if they are made to accept gifts from their sociopathic parent, no matter how small the gift is, feel so uneasy and guilt-ridden about owning these gifts, that they give them up by re-gifting. Charity becomes the safest avenue because they are organizations instead of "people" -- it is harder for a sociopath to target bureaucrats with an IOU than it is an individual person.

Christopher McCandless was an alleged victim of child abuse, for instance, and gave away the money his parents gifted him to Oxfam.

Since children are ineffective at rebelling against how they are treated by their sociopathic parent, they can become unusually quiet, appear distant, disturbed and uneasy (distrustful of others, the signs of the lost child in family systems theory). Unless there are mitigating circumstances, like an empath mother winning custody, children from sociopathic homes tend to have severe PTSD. While some children mimic their parent, becoming another sociopath, others try to create distance, plan on what to say to their parent to keep safe and not be a target, and try to make themselves invisible.

Sociopathic parents and step parents tend to have such a heavy disciplinary hand that it can and does cause tremendous trauma to their victims, and for life, especially children, as children have a more sensitive constitution than adults.

"Time-outs" are usually sadistic, lengthy and definitely not "child learning experiences" (i.e. they are for torture only, for the sociopath's pleasure).

Sociopaths also love to rewrite history and insist that their children believe in and recite altered truths and versions. They lie much more than other cluster B disordered people.

If a child is being bullied at school or in the home by another family member, the sociopathic parent will rarely, if ever, come to the child's rescue or deal with the issues in an appropriate way. "What did you do to deserve it?" and similar phrases are used. Children who are bullied often find that they are not believed. The reason why is because sociopaths use projection: they always pretend to be victims themselves and assume their children are pretending too. As a result, children can be defenseless, and even stalked, tortured, sexually abused, raped and abducted from the lack of parental intervention and supervision. The sicker sociopathic parents prefer that their children be bullied to get the child to believe in themselves as intrinsically less worthwhile than others, too stupid and crazy to function without the parent telling them what to do, and why they can never measure up other than to be a family slave or family punching bag. Survivors who become adults often wonder why they were not protected by their parents like other children were. What I have explained here should help with those answers.

Low functioning sociopaths tend to be more violent, rash and somewhat less haughty and charming than the high functioning variety. They are less known for devious planning than impulsive outbursts of temper or violence. They are less aware of how they effect children, what laws are, what proper social interaction looks like, that they usually blatantly break the law at some point. They are also more exploitative as they tend to come from families which are broken, with little financial security. This means that they often steal from their own children.

Because sociopaths in all of their varieties have very little respect for the boundaries of grown children, and show so little capacity in understanding anything emotional, they cannot be counted on to have any kind of normal response to the pain of others. Almost all therapists and psychologists advise their clients to abandon sociopaths. When the sociopath is a parent, the advice is still abandoning the parent, especially if the child has been abused. If the adult child cannot bear the thought of abandoning his parent, the therapist or psychologist often teaches the client how to put in place strong boundaries which will be respected. Those boundaries have to include no communications about emotional, personal or professional subjects, ever, as sociopaths use information about these subjects to hurt the child. Law enforcement is sometimes needed and used to help set boundaries since sociopaths generally do not respect the boundaries of adult children, and are known to keep pushing at boundaries. It is also suggested that the contact be in the context of family gatherings and never one-on-one meetings.

Most children who have been abused by a sociopathic parent find that they cannot maintain low contact because the sociopath's manipulative wheels are still always turning. Forums for children of sociopaths often describe the "sociopathic stare". It is a stare that lets the child know that the parent has cruel retaliatory intentions. Sociopaths make it much clearer to children than narcissists do that children serve no intrinsic value outside of what they will do for the sociopath. The only value a child has to a sociopath is if they are useful in some way to the parent.

Name-calling (verbal abuse) towards children tends to take the form of the following phrases:
* "You're useless."
* "You're a waste."
* "You're no good."
* "I don't need you or want you."
* "I don't care about you."
* "You're poison."
* "You're evil."
* If sociopaths use animal "insult" names where their children are concerned, it tends to be animals that have a reputation of being evil: snake, serpent, rat, viper, black widow spider ... or of being stupid and lazy: dodo, sloth.
* Since sociopaths do not value children very much, this comes across in such phrases as "You're nothing" and referring to a child as "it" instead of by their name.
* They also regularly make it clear that children are not important to them. Parental rejection is so widespread and common among sociopathic parents that it is a given (in contrast, narcissistic parents use "silent treatments", which amount to the same thing as rejection except they expect a cycle of make-ups and breakups -- see wheel of abuse).
* Sociopaths are not hurt if a child rejects them back (though they may feign tears to make an impression), whereas narcissists think they are so desirable and incredible that they experience narcissistic injury and they will test their victims to see if they can "get back in" with hoovering (i.e. to count on continuous narcissistic supply)
* Sociopaths tend to break some kind of law eventually where it comes to children. Child neglect and cruel and unusual punishment are the most common. But many also break other laws where it comes to children and adult children: coercion, harassment, false imprisonment and threats. Note: false imprisonment and threats can easily turn to physical abuse because they are already trying to physically restrain. If you are a child or stepchild of a sociopath, it is important to become knowledgeable about what the law can and can't do to help you create good and lasting boundaries with the sociopath. Sociopaths use a heavy hand, so it is the only thing they understand when it comes to your boundaries. Getting police and lawyers involved is often the best way to deal with sociopaths who are harassing you, stalking you or who have used false imprisonment in some way.

Since sociopaths like "easy prey" they tend to move away from people who show an intent to use the law.

Sociopaths primarily use erroneous blaming for their sadistic punishments of children such as:
* "You need to be punished for that look on your face."
* "You need to be punished for that attitude."
* "I will make sure that you never see your mother again."
* "You will never see a dime from me again for your lack of gratitude."
* "Every time I see that smirk on your face, you're going to whipped. So if you don't like being whipped, I suggest you change your attitude."
* "If you're going to cry, I'll keep hitting you until you stop!"
* "If you insist on talking like that, you'll get it."
* "You need to be whipped, then you're going to walk on glass, then you are going to kneel on popcorn kernels for at least an hour, all without crying or saying a word, or we will start the process all over again until you learn to be quiet when I tell you to be quiet."
(note: the above are all about the adult interpreting the feelings and thoughts of the child in a negative way, and punishing the child for those interpretations ... Children in these situations learn to feel ashamed of feelings, facial expressions and thoughts, even if they are perfectly innocent ... more on why this is so damaging to children in another post).
Here are a few other kinds of phrasing:
* "No one likes you or loves you, so you will go straight to your room for several months after you come home from school until I can tell you that you can come out." -- isolation is a very ineffective disciplinary tool, and can do a lot of damage, but sociopathic parents are known to love and use the isolation tactic to its extreme
* "You deserve to drown if you play near the water."
* "I brought you into the world, and I can take you out." -- very common
* "If it wasn't for me, you would have nothing at all, so be grateful for the little you have or you'll get smacked."
* If your kitten misses the cat box again, I'm going to wrangle its little neck! And you're going to watch me while I do it ... or you're going to figure out how you will train that damned kitten to do what it is told!"
* "If you are going to disagree with me, then we're done."

Some other signs of sociopaths:
* when others talk about love or compassion, sociopaths tend to shift around and look uncomfortable (with a nose in the air is another sign)
* they are generally not comfortable hugging anyone (unless the person in question is a conquest of some sort)
* they become animated and alive when insulting people, acting superior, goading, threatening, insulting, and punishing, but otherwise they appear emotionally flat and bored
* if you talk to a sociopath about a person needing empathy, leniency or "a break", the sociopath is likely to argue points about why they do not deserve empathy; they will tend to say things like "he deserved it" or "in fact, it wasn't harsh enough." If you suspect someone is a sociopath, talk about empathy A LOT, and take notes on the answers you receive from them.

What sociopaths have in common with narcissists:
lying and gaslighting: it is even more severe in sociopaths than narcissists. In fact, there is so much altering of events and attempts to make it seem that everyone but them is stupid or crazy. They strong-arm people closest to them to recite altered versions of events and people. They will attack people who have proof of the opposite of what they claim. When you are a child of a sociopath, you learn to pretend to go along, walk on eggshells and lie back to the sociopath to keep safe, that the sociopath literally lives in a world of lies and made-up experiences (fantasies).
erroneous punishments
triangulation -- another word for divide and conquer
verbal abuse -- they are masters of insults and name-calling, often using humor if it is in front of others
taunting and goading
arrogance 
enlisting bullies to gang up on someone
using trauma bonding 
word salad arguments
blame-shifting (and pretending to be a victim)
hypocritical

One big difference between narcissists and sociopaths, is that narcissists can be generous towards their children (usually for show, to compete with the Jones's, to display their wealth, to have a reputation of being a great parent or a generous parent -- all to fit in with "normal parents"), whereas sociopaths feel no need for societal approval or the approval of other parents beyond the most rudimentary "get by" kinds of actions; they abandon children and the care of children (including child support payments) at a dizzying rate, have no trouble telling people they think their children are bad, even though it raises suspicion ... after all, they reason if they are caught at being unethical, they will just fib their way through it. They are anti-social for a reason. Financial abuse is a "given" when it comes to sociopaths. Sociopaths also expect their children to give them much more than they give to their children (in other words, if the child receives a gift from a sociopathic parent, the re-payment of that gift has to be of greater value -- not less value, not of equal value, yes, "greater value", which is why many children eventually reject gifts from this kind of parent: there are too many strings attached).

Narcissists (as opposed to sociopaths) can be social butterflies, especially the extroverted variety. It is one reason why sociopaths are attracted to narcissists, because the narcissist can lead the way in social graces and the sociopath can hide his unfeeling self behind the narcissist. Even the introverted narcissists want societal approval regardless of how they get it. Sociopaths do not have that agenda unless they see direct and immediate benefit to them, but through the narcissist, they begin to see opportunities for their own agendas through being fake and polite. Even the charming sociopaths tend to show some semblance of social awkwardness and it is hard not to miss their total lack of ability to feel love, affection and admiration for others (they come across as cold, arrogant and stilted no matter how much time and energy they put into "acting skills"). Exuding warmth in a believable way is just not possible. Their speech tends to be "intellectualized", dry, stilted and unemotional. People who are sensitive to the moods and feelings of others pick up right away on the insincerity of the sociopath (it is like a "mafia kiss").

However, empaths can still tend to "give the benefit of the doubt" and project their own character onto a sociopath (seeing goodness in everyone until they get hurt, very hurt, that is). This kind of projecting can over-ride their initial intuitions about people (unfortunately), so sociopaths can seem to slip through the empath's and society's radar. When empaths are told "he is a sociopath" they don't generally go into shock or do a double-take however; instead they quickly validate their impressions: "I always sensed there was something not quite right about him, but my politeness took over ..."

Children of narcissists tend to be more vulnerable to hoovering than children of sociopaths. Children of sociopaths do not wring their hands about what they could have done or said to make their relationship with the sociopath better, or get the sociopath to love them again. Their feelings overwhelmingly run along the line of: "I wish I had a different parent. I wish I had a loving parent like --" They are much more aware they got a raw deal in the parent department than children of narcissists. Because narcissists have been known to hoover children back with big apologies, love bombing, believable tears, and big gifts, it is a little harder to resist it, at least the first time around. Child abuse survivors of narcissists can be much more plagued with fear, guilt or shame than children of sociopathic parents. Sociopaths often find that second chances never work with their children; their disorder is too hard to mask, and for the child to overcome.  

Narcissists who have some sociopathic traits are referred to as malignant narcissists.

Sam Vaknin is a self-proclaimed malignant narcissist, and he is worth watching, if only to hear how he phrases things (matter-of-fact, without much emotion, smiling with the mouth but not the eyes -- all traits). His take on the malignant narcissist's mind may also be worth hearing as he goes into depth about how malignant narcissists think, their inability to feel the range of emotions that most people feel, the "missing empathy" part of their brains, the realizations that they aren't like others, and why they are predatory and arrogant. He is the only malignant narcissist I know about who stopped projecting onto others, and instead wanted to self reflect (possibly from getting tired of being sent to jail). He realized he was different from others. He became passionate about helping people avoid the narcissist's idealize-discard traps. In other words, he allowed himself to be exposed (something narcissists hate doing, and will usually avoid at all costs). Survivors of abuse often rail against him, but he states that his main purpose in life is to try to get survivors to understand the disorder from someone who "suffers" with the disorder:



He seemingly tries to understand the perspectives of survivors even when it is difficult for him (tends to be an intellectualized understanding than an emotional one). He is accompanied by his wife, an empath, who he says helps to regulate his "narcissistic supply needs" so that he can get his message across and not hurt any more people. Note: his exposure, self reflection, shame, self loathing and willingness to learn what others go through is extremely rare to witness; the overwhelming number of malignant narcissists will do anything and everything to avoid it and cover it up with arrogance, lies, displays of grandeur and pretending to be a victim. However (warning, warning!), do not expect any of the narcissists or sociopaths you know to realize anything, not even a smidgen of what Sam Vaknin realized. Sociopaths and narcissists are the most rigid unchangeable people on the planet. They have not even a tiny sense of what it is like to be enlightened. The need for narcissistic supply is so overwhelming for the narcissist, that his life is totally engulfed by it, like a heroin addict going after fix upon fix. The "punishments" that the narcissist and sociopath inflict, keep both of them stuck in a six year old mentality.

However, realize this: sociopaths tend to be attracted to the garden variety of narcissists, not the malignant narcissists. The garden variety's main concern and objective in life is to obtain as much narcissistic supply as can be mustered to keep up with the Jones's. Sociopaths do not tend to be attracted to other sociopaths or malignant narcissists because they intuitively know that the fight for dominance will either put one of them in the hospital (or both), or that it will be an on-going battle (because they both know neither one can stand to lose). This is just one reason sociopaths tend to choose people they deem to be weaker than themselves. While the garden variety of narcissist is not as easy prey as the empath, the narcissist makes it known they need a bullying partner which the sociopath will gladly fill to get his own sadism needs met. The sociopath has an overwhelming desire to punish and control people; whereas the narcissist wants to be worshiped and envied by others first and foremost, and then only punish and control when they deem themselves to not be receiving it. The sociopath fulfills his dream by becoming the punisher of people not handing control, power and flattery over to the narcissist, all the while building conspiracy theories about those other people in the narcissist's head. The narcissist is sucked in by the sociopath's acting job of devotion, worship and "stability". On the other hand, sociopaths also see the narcissist's need for narcissistic supply as a "weakness to exploit".

Therapy does not work with sociopaths because they lie, dodge, and make up so many stories and altered versions that a therapist would practically have to be a ghost buster to break through all of the figments of their imagination (note: this theory comes from Sam Vaknin).

Sociopaths and malignant narcissists do get into positions of power. They do to nations what they do to their families: divide people, start wars, scapegoat someone (whether other political parties or races or groups of people), isolate and favoritize, insult and torture people who do not go along with their world view, go back on their word, believe in authoritarianism (i.e. that they should rule without interference or objection), insult and marginalize people who have proof, object, have a different opinion, etc, tell people to "shut up", are incapable of "fair negotiations", will only negotiate if it does something for them (i.e. give them ever more power and money), think Machiavellian thoughts or have temper tantrums when they aren't getting their way, cut people out who aren't doing exactly what they want (i.e. who aren't total sycophants), aggrandize themselves, use wars and conflicts to elevate themselves, love to focus on how certain people or groups that they deem to be worthless or enemies are stupid or crazy (gaslighting), do not believe in karma, believe in law and order for other people (but not when it comes to themselves), and usually invest in weapons (an arms race) at the detriment of everything else. They usually lose wars and fall from grace in the end.

Child molesters, sexual abusers, pimps and rapists tend to be malignant narcissists and sociopaths. Note: not all malignant narcissists and sociopaths are sexual predators, but all sexual predators are malignant narcissists and sociopaths.  Since malignant narcissists and sociopaths are completely unable to form healthy bonds, the bonds they form tend to be exploitative, and this is just another form of exploitation.

Why the narcissist-sociopath "bully team" should be abandoned:

If you have read about what sociopaths do, and how they treat others, it should be obvious.

Narcissists need flying monkeys to help them with any kind of "devastating bullying", and the flying monkeys that work best are others who like to bully.

Since empaths are out to help people and to be kind, co-bullies can't be found among that population (these people account for 20 - 30 percent of the population).

People who want normalcy and routine in their lives, who are empathetic to their children and with their spouse, and put their nose to the grindstone when away from the home to feed and provide for the family aren't going to be good recruits for narcissists either (these people account for roughly half of the population). They are shocked and horrified by child abuse, since they are all about family and doing their absolute best for their family members. These people are the ones that narcissists want to appear "normal to" and to fit in with, to be in social circles with, but that is about it. Most narcissists already know not to ask these people for bullying assistance (i.e. to help them denigrate, gaslight, punish, isolate, guilt-trip, slander and devalue their own children).

In fact, narcissists are so aware that they will be frowned upon by these kinds of people, they are not going to say truths like, "We weren't getting worshiped or flattered enough by our children, so we decided to insult them and get rid of them." They are going to be making excuses like: "Our children want their own lives, and they do what most children do: they have their jobs and their families. I just wish they'd call more." This is the great cover-up for abuse, and it is one reason why abusers are so hard to detect in the population.

However, with the sociopath, narcissists don't need to make excuses or explain anything away. The sociopath will not only approve of the former "reason", but will help implement situations that support the thinking. And they could care less if the narcissist lies, covers things up, gaslights, re-explains with word salad, dodges and gives half-answers.

These excuses, by the way, do not fly if the narc is partnered with an empath or a normal: if anything they would be exposed and reprimanded by the partner, for lying and making lame excuses, and being short-sighted about the value of their own children.

So the people left who are going to consider helping with the bullying are the ones with personality disorders, the ones who are already in the practice of bullying and devaluing people in the first place: other narcissists and sociopaths. Sometimes borderlines are chosen too, but there are short-comings for enlisting borderlines (I will talk about the narcissist-borderline "bully team" in another post, but basically it comes down to the fact that borderlines have a conscience, can be overwhelmed with regret, and tend to be inconsistent and highly emotional).

Anyway, the sociopath-narcissist combo is going to be about their "King and Queen fantasy" where the sociopath demands that children bow and fawn at the alter of abusive authority. The sociopath pretends to be an enabler of the narcissist's flattery addiction, and punishes children who don't deliver in the most obsequious way. The sociopath is the judge of how "perfect" the submission is (which it never is: it is an on-going "trial", with many sadistic punishments). Since sociopaths are anti-social (don't like people, children or animals), they most often denigrate and devalue everyone in their social circle at some time anyway, even if just in private. They also secretly enjoy the narcissist's paranoia, because they can swoop in with a "protector role", a role which they love because it puts them in charge of who can and cannot be in the narcissist's life. The smarter, more educated sociopaths denigrate with an impressive vocabulary, often with humor and a knowledge of obscure "facts"; they are intellectual bullies. But bullying is bullying no matter how it is delivered. A vocabulary with clever put-downs and strategies doesn't excuse them.

If you are a child of this combo, you are probably already living on the outside of it with little to no contact with your parents. One narcissist, even if surrounded by no one but empaths and normals can already do a lot of damage (triangulation). When they have made a bully-pact with a sociopath, the damage to the entire family is collateral. Your voice on any subject is NOT going to be heard, let alone considered. They are going to be spending their time with you trying to superimpose what they want you to believe about your own experiences (gaslighting -- except with a sociopath in the mix, this is extreme full time gaslighting x 2). It is more effective to talk to a brick wall because a brick wall is more real than anything they have to say; you also can't get PTSD from a wall.

Domestic Violence counselors generally counsel children to go no contact and sometimes even move away when this Dark Triad power couple is in their lives. But if a child insists he or she wants a relationship with one of the parents, or is worried about the parent being isolated with a sociopath, the only way to do it is to get the police involved in breaking up the co-bullying. The police can contact the parent the child does not want to speak to or have a relationship with (and an arrest can be made based on harassment if the warned parent continues to contact, threaten or bully).

Most often the parent the child wanted to retain a relationship with will insist that the child accept the other bully, and to endure more bullying, or be banished (typical). I'm sure that most of you who have these kinds of parents ran into the accept-us-both-or-be-gone-with-you dynamic. One reason this happens is because the narcissist usually is so convinced that they are being "protected" by the sociopath from an unflattering fall-out.

The important thing to keep in mind when they tell you that you have to accept them as a pair (as most likely they will): your parents are telling you that bullying you is the only acceptable relationship they will have with you.

That should help you move away from them, in mind, body and spirit. You will be living your own life, on your own terms, with your own strengths and weaknesses, and without worrying if you did the right thing or acted the right way (because you know there is no winning this -- it is scapegoating on steroids).

Since relationships with children, innocents, the sickly, the poor, pets and animals don't mean anything to sociopaths, they won't care. They may cry crocodile tears to impress the narcissist, or with the flock of people the narcissist is trying to impress, but if they really cared, they wouldn't be into punishing: they would be into ironing things out, value the perspectives of others, and pushing for a make-up. They would insist that the narcissist care about his or her children. They would also insist that cruelty and retaliation against children is not going to work or be socially acceptable. But if anything, sociopaths want to escalate these things, even beyond the narcissist's endurance. It is one way you tell that they are sociopaths. All sociopaths LOVE to punish.

One of the reasons sociopaths break laws is because they love it so much, including work-arounds and attacks-by-proxy, is that they are completely incapable of seeing beyond the punishment as a strategy to resolve conflicts (this should let you know that sociopaths who are book smart are not smart about interpersonal relationships in the slightest: again, they are called anti-socials for a reason).

For narcissists, the relationship with their children is meaningful in terms of how they are perceived and their social standing -- in other words, the relationship with the child only has extrinsic value, not intrinsic value to them, but unlike the sociopath, children still have some value even if it isn't the right kind. When children get the very distinct message that they don't matter (which they will not with a Dark Triad power couple), they can move on without regrets or "wondering what they could have done to make it better." This is because the bullying is so rampant, so illogical and irrational, so over-the-top in terms of cruelty, so escalation-driven, and so obvious. The sociopath-narcissist bully team's actions are NOT peppered with a single about-face or regret.

There is a lot of parent-child estrangement (that tends to extend to grandchildren, in-laws and into other generations) with Dark Triad parents.


The Six Hallmarks of a Sociopath -- by Jonice Webb PhD for Psych Central

How to Spot a Sociopath -- from Wiki (recommended reading)



Children with 'negative' parents twice as likely to misbehave -- by Graeme Paton

A good example of what a low functioning sociopath is like as a parent-figure: 
My mother is a sociopath (MD Junction forum -- the replies may be worth reading too)

Personality Disorders And Parental Alienation -- from the parent-alienate website

Partners in Evil: The Psychopath and Malignant Narcissist Combo -- from Claudia Moscovici

Growing up the child of a Dark Tetrad or Dark Triad Power Couple --
from the Narcissists, Sociopaths, Flying Monkeys -- Oh My! blog

Search: are narcissists attracted to sociopaths? -- from The Path Whisperer, An Exploration Into Sociopathy

When Two Psychopaths Meet -- from the Signs of a Psychopath website

Sexual abuse of children and adults common for Dark Triad or Narcopath personality types -- from the Narcissists, Sociopaths, Flying Monkeys -- Oh My! blog

Think of Sociopaths as Aliens -- It May Help You Understand Them -- by Donna Anderson for the Love Fraud.com website

The Differences Between a Sociopath and a Narcissist -- from Sanctuary of Abused website

Pathological Lying: A Psychopathic Manipulation Tool -- from the Psychopath Free website

In Love With a Sociopath? -- Silva Hayes for Hubpages

Here Are 5 Undeniable Signs That You Are Arguing With A Sociopath -- from Health, Spirit, Body website

Narcissists and Sociopaths groom victims to enable abuse -- from Health Blog

Confessions of a Sociopath -- by M.E. Thomas, a Psychology Today post by a lawyer, and high functioning sociopath

The Mind of a Child Molester -- by Amy Hammel-Zabin for Psychology Today

Sociopathocracy: What Information Theory Teaches Us About Tyrants -- by Jeremy E. Sherman, Ph.D.

Dear Friend: Please do not take back your sociopathic partner -- from the Love Fraud website

"Narcissism and the Sociopathic Mind"