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Showing posts with label narcissistic traits. Show all posts
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Tuesday, February 21, 2023

A Discussion on Cognitive Empathy in Abusive Relationships: How to Tell if the Person You Are Dealing With in a Close Personal Relationship Has Empathy


This is an addendum to my post on Lack of Empathy and the Cluster B personality disorders. It is also an addendum to my post on why narcissists Pick the Worst Times of Your Life to Do Damage.

As usual I have articles at the end of the post written by other authors for your further reading enjoyment.  

To some of my steady readers, the following 2 paragraphs will be redundant, so you can skip over them if you want. For those who have landed on my blog for the first time, you will probably want to read the first two paragraphs to get a better understanding of what is at play.  

To get some perspective on who abuses, and who tends to have a lack of empathy, go to this post first. Or to get a synopsis, it tends to be people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Histrionic Personality Disorder and Antisocial Personality Disorder, all of which tend to be in the Cluster B range of personality disorders. Borderline Personality Disorder is part of the Cluster B personality disorders too, and whether they have enough empathy when tragic situations arrive in their closest people's lives, has to do with whether they also have some narcissistic traits (they will not have all of the traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder however). All of these disorders are on a spectrum - Borderline Personality Disorder is on the lighter end of the spectrum and Antisocial Personality Disorder is on the darker end of the spectrum. 

In a generalized sense of the word, in Borderline Personality Disorder the main characteristics are: terrified of abandonment, they don't have a good sense of who they are and tend to change their personalities and style of dress often to reflect a new persona, they are changeable emotionally and tend to have strong, and even overwhelming emotional responses, and they are quite prone to black and white thinking. They can show bullying tendencies, and even some lack of empathy at times, but they are very impulsive about it (quite a bit more impulsive than the other Cluster Bs) and they tend to feel pretty guilty afterwards. There a number of "types" of Borderlines however, so again, this is very generalized and is mitigated by the type of Borderline they are. Borderlines can grow out of their "disorder" or change out of it through therapy. Narcissists, Histrionics and the Antisocial Personality Disordered overwhelmingly will not grow out of their disorders, and overwhelmingly will not want to change when given the chance. They tend to want to move on to other victims instead, or other people who cannot detect their personality disorder very easily.

If they do go to therapy, they tend to want to trick therapists into their way of thinking about issues. In other words, the focus will not be on healing their relationships, but on getting the therapist to side with them and their perspectives. It will be clear that is what they want and for their victims to do all of the work in the relationship (meaning giving in to the narcissist). They will also want their victim to take full responsibility for what happened between the two of them. 

"Heal your relationship" types of therapists often fall for this trick/manipulation by the narcissist; domestic violence therapists overwhelmingly tend not to. If you really want help, think about the kind of therapist you see. Note: relationship therapists and mediator-type therapists are not trained in domestic violence and the signs, and they are also not trained in trauma responses. You can end up more traumatized than when you went in if you pick this kind of counselor. For more information about therapy with abusers, GO HERE

Also consider that abusive relationships aren't really relationships; they are one person trying to terrorize and traumatize another person into submission. And also consider that the relationship problems aren't real relationship problems; the real problem between you is abuse (note: even verbal abuse counts). 

For the purpose of this post I will be talking about Narcissistic Personality Disorder the most. 

Some psychologists say that the first tell-tale signs that you are dealing with a narcissist is 1. that they rage when criticized, and 2. they push you to believe that they are faultless, that only the other person is at fault when there are conflicts in their relationships. and 3. that the other person is crazy and therefor the relationship is not conducive to working out relationship issues (gaslighting).  

However, the other sign is that they tend not to show you empathy when you are going through a really tragic period of your life (especially if they have the other traits of narcissism shown in the right column) - unless they are trying to win you over during that time. Their agenda, once you are feeling "secure in your relationship with them" will be to get more power, control and domination for themselves. In other words, they try to create more trauma and drama at the time you are on your knees with tragedies so that you are putting your thought towards them instead of dealing with your tragedy. The reason they do this is because they look at it as a prime time to get more submission out of you in regards to fulfilling their desires for more power, control and domination. Quite heartless. 

They are always working on making you submissive anyway through gaslighting, lots of lectures about what you should do and how you should behave. If they feel secure in their bet for getting more domination and control out of you, and they are not getting it by your attempts to put up a resistance, it will be obvious they want to abandon you or hurt you if you do not give into them. It will be clear that they have put "be submissive to me" above healing for you

People in the normal range of human behaviors will always put your healing above their own agendas. 

Narcissists are always going for trauma-bonded relationships. That's the reason they go from lecturing you ----> to lecturing with trying to control your decisions in your own life ---> to lecturing & trying to control your decisions about your own life with gaslighting (trying to make you feel that your perceptions are so skewed and wrong that you are incapable and inept at making good decisions, or your own decisions, and that they have to make your decisions for you - where their domination and control starts to show up) ---> to coercive control, domination, the beginnings of abuse (usually devaluations of your character, lots of criticizing, and sometimes insults), with either threats of abandonment beginning with some mild forms of abandonment. 

All of that will still be obvious if that is all that they do. 

Where it can get tricky is that while they are gaslighting, and being abusive, they will most likely do several things. Try to convince you that you are the unempathetic one. For instance say things like:

1. they did so much for you in the past that showed they were empathetic.
2. that you are withdrawing from them (which is the normal response from you) to being abused, gaslighted, being threatened and going for their own power, control and domination fantasies over your healing from trauma.  
3. Tell you that they have done much more for you than you did for them (try to make a competition out of who is more empathetic).
4. You are not living up to their perfection standards and being in a relationship with you is exhausting, and they are really empathetic, but because you aren't doing x, y, and z for them, they don't want to show you any empathy. 
etc ...

However, that usually won't be the end of it. They will argue their points until the other person gets warn down and exhausted  ... and they even resort to word salad arguments, gaslighting, using perspecticide, all leading up to a blame-shift, so that they are assured that you are saddled with all of the blame, or as much blame as they think they can reasonably get away with, taking your co-dependency with them into account, your vulnerability to power, control and domination into account, and your propensity for empathy into account. Narcissists make an art out of this, and on gauging your responses ahead of time (yes, they plan how to do this successfully, in their favor), and if you give in to all of this, you can fall into a state of cognitive dissonance and get abused again, and again, and fall into a pattern where you keep going back to your abuser again and again too. 

You always have to be cognizant of their propensity to blame, shame and blame-shift all culpability on to you, otherwise you will be in trouble. For this reason, most domestic violence counselors would prefer their clients not argue with narcissists, or have much contact with them. 

Also, their blame-shifting tactics are a huge red flag that they are not the empaths they are pretending to be.  

These are all tactics and distractions that the narcissist uses to get you into a compromised situation, using your empathy against you, using your vulnerability against you, using your trauma against you, using your trusting nature against you in order to get you into a submissive state. It is highly unethical. No matter what they have done in the past, in the present day they are showing you that this is who they are. 

The past is not who they are. They may have been more careful in the past (maybe they sensed you were endowed with too much power to be too cruel to). They might have sensed that you had a lot of support. They might have sensed you were not vulnerable enough for their manipulations. Many of them wait for the coast to be clear in terms of their agendas, and that is especially true of covert narcissists. Hopefully that will become obvious further into the post.

At any rate, narcissists are sometimes capable of something called "cognitive empathy", whereby they say things like:
"Oh, I'm so sorry you are going through this."
"What a tragedy! I'm sending you much love, healing vibes and all of my sympathy!" 
"How awful! I wish you and your loved ones the best!"
"Life can dish up so much tragedy! It's too bad so many people are cruel these days! I love you so much!" 

However, they usually don't experience empathy on the "feeling level". The feeling level is exactly what it sounds like: they don't feel what you feel. Signs that they feel empathy include:
- looking directly into your eyes and crying when you cry.
- your tragedies tend to come first in their agendas 
- understanding on a deep level what you are going through emotionally, such that they feel what you feel even when it is not their direct experience 
- empathy turning into compassion
- "We're in this together" types of outpourings. 

But most of all, there is constant eye-contact. Often real empathy is expressed by sitting near you, comforting you with hugs and other physical gestures, crying with you, making compassionate statements (i.e. what they can do to help you heal). Again, the constant eye contact is key.  

If you know narcissists, they don't do this. However, WARNING: there is a dark traumatizing breed of narcissist, one who has studied how to make empathetic gestures to the point of a significant acting ability. I talk about that later in the post. So it is not always the case that narcissists avoid eye contact, but mostly they do. They may give you fleeting looks, but they tend to look elsewhere when you are expressing emotions and telling your story. And some of their comments will probably seem odd, off-hand, or cold. Also their brand of empathy can turn off like a light switch - and most of us know that real empathy in close personal relationships can't do that. So we consider that when their empathy dies for us suddenly, it is fake. Fake empathy might be at play, certainly, but the right word is really cognitive empathy. 

Can they help it?

A lack of empathy is probably the one thing they probably can't help. Some psychologists (who I feature below) say narcissists can be helped to feel more empathy, but I have never seen it myself, and if anything, I saw it get much, much worse. Most of the survivors I have talked to numbering in the thousands never saw it once either.

More likely, the ability to feel empathy probably died in them in early childhood. It can be from being a golden child of a parent with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, where the child is never called upon to be empathetic, accountable, ethical or responsible for hurting others. In many of these cases, bad bullying behavior is even condoned and coddled by a parent. They are only required to be loyal to a parent, who may be highly unethical themselves. I discuss this phenomenon in my post on the bully golden child where I make it clear how this can happen.  

Some psychologists say it might also be a "brain issue", and can be to some extent even when a child is put into a golden child role (that is also discussed in the bully golden child post). But some psychologists are convinced that it has to do with a brain issue that starts in the womb, but those psychologists tend to be in the minority. However, most psychologists and psychiatrists believe that whether it is organic or learned, the lack of empathy starts in early childhood and becomes part of the development and fixed elements of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Even without all of the other symptoms and tactics narcissists use, a lack of empathy is still extremely challenging, especially for children. Some of the complaints I have seen personally run the gamut: being stuck in infantilized or parentified roles forever, not getting enough nutrition as a child and relying on people outside the family for an adequate amount of food, being carted around to lovers' living spaces and having to find ways of being occupied while their parent had sex, suffering through life threatening illnesses without medical care because the parent thought they, the child, was faking it ... In other words most children of narcissists suffer long periods of neglect. Being concerned about what their child is experiencing is just not on the radar of things to be concerned about when it comes to narcissistic parents and their needs for narcissistic supply, and that definitely includes children's feelings. If anything, the parent tries to either provoke children, or they try to squash the feelings of children. They tend to be enormously out of touch with what their children are experiencing, and even who they are, especially those children who are emotionally abandoned (very common), making children of narcissists vulnerable not only to bullying and predatory adults, but to health and medical issues, nutritional issues, safety issues, and general issues that arise where they are being called upon to be much more autonomous for their own care than their age can handle.  

Since narcissists are only capable of cognitive empathy, with a profound level of misunderstanding others, they tend to do the following (this is their best behavior, by the way, not their worst - at the worst they won't care at all what you are experiencing, and sometimes even abandon when tragedies enact feelings):
- they tend to lecture you about how you should solve the problems in your life that will make the tragedy less tragic 
- they will diminish the tragedy and the people who are effected by it and tell you not to focus or dwell on it (to make the best of it) - that is because that is what they do when they have tragedies. 
- they will do research for you so that you know what kind of tragedy you are dealing with and how to respond to it
- they will tell you that your tragedy is ruining your life, or more importantly, their life. They put demands on your attention, and can even try to make you feel guilty for having feelings and thoughts about it. They might say they are being extremely patient until you can work through it, but again, it is all about them. 
- they talk about how their tragedies are worse than yours (compete with you about whose tragedy was worse).
- they talk about how they got over a tragedy like yours, or similar to yours. Why can't you get over yours? - note: getting over tragedies fast is actually not normal, and is not the way you heal, so that should send up red flags. 
- if someone else caused the tragedy, they disparage you for not forgiving and forgetting, or they ask you why you can't just forgive and forget, like something is wrong with you. "Forgiveness shaming" is quite common, and actually makes the trauma worse and last a lot longer, but because they want to see forgiveness in you so badly and right away for all kinds of reasons, usually for self serving purposes, they will most likely be shaming you for not forgiving or forgetting.   
- that they helped you (in some small way, or in some way that they feel that you need to be grateful for) and "now you need to get over it!" - mostly they want you to get over it fast, not in terms of healing, but to get back to them and what they want from you - they have very little patience for people who are distracted by trauma and trauma symptoms.

Anyway, I hope I have enlightened you as to the differences between cognitive empathy versus the ability to actually feel empathy (to understand your agony on an emotional level, and a much, much deeper level than cognitive empathy).

THE DARK EMPATH AND HOW IT RELATES TO THIS DISCUSSION

Most narcissists don't know that real empathy requires constant eye contact, even when you are crying.

And they don't know that lectures aren't helpful and can traumatize you more when you are going through a tragedy. 

And most narcissists don't know that most people aren't like them. They think everyone projects and fakes the way they do.  

But then there are those narcissists who do understand on a lot of levels that they are different from other human beings, especially when it comes to empathy. And they understand on an intellectual level the difference between cognitive empathy and real empathy. They even understand that in order to portray empathy the right way they have to keep constant with the eye contact, with attentiveness and soothing, and not to say anything too self-serving while this is going on - until they want to, of course, when they realize some ultimate goal in power and it seems ironclad. In other words they wait much later than most narcissists. 

They actually diligently study how people empathize. And they can even fool on empathy tests at times as well.  

These particular narcissists are called "dark empaths". They usually have many Dark Triad markers in their personality (a mixture of narcissism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism) with scheming and planning. Their main mode of operandi is to fool others that they are empaths and then when they get into a position of overwhelming power over others, lower the boom on their victims in terms of taking complete control over them; i.e. trapping them in ways that the victims would find extremely difficult to get out of. 

These people create much more trauma in their victims than your usual run-of-the-mill narcissists because run-of-the-mill narcissists are simply too self involved to study empathy to that degree. They are not really interested in empaths beyond what an empath can do for them. They know what empaths say, and they think that is all there is to it. And they aren't entirely convincing to most of us when they say they care (there is just enough looking away or a nose in the air, lecturing, and coldness in their delivery to make most victims suspicious of their real intentions). So they tend to over-play their hand early when an empath can still escape the relationship without as much trauma as victims of dark empaths.

A few cult leaders are dark empaths, especially the ones who want to kill all of their followers. They find ways to manufacture the idea that the whole cult is in danger from outside because of their beliefs or religion, when the real truth is that they are in danger from dying from inside the cult (dark triad cult leaders can and do insist that their followers willingly commit suicide as a sign of loyalty). 

Dark empaths can create the kind of trauma where victims want to jump from a high building, who tell others they no longer want to live, who feel inexorably trapped (the ultimate in trauma bonding in other words). In fact, the trauma they feel is often so bad precisely because they could not detect that the person was not an empath at all (so convincing): the leader turned into this horrific, abusive, threatening, paranoid, murderous authoritarian monster practically overnight. And many kinds of narcissists do tend to switch from nice to horrifically abusive overnight, so that is where dark triads who show empathy have something in common with run-of-the-mill narcissists.

Beware of these dark narcissists. Resist the thinking that you will find an idealized significant emotional and spiritual connection and community (especially in cults). This is especially a warning to scapegoats and lost children who generally are the ones to be discarded by narcissistic parents, and are on a journey to find more genuine connection and empathy than the cold cognitive empathy they got from a parent or parents. 

If you are supposed to give up your past, all of your past relationships, and be isolated within the cult, or in the personal relationship, that is a sign of narcissism at work. Some cult leaders live "high off the hog" with lots of money and cars while their followers live barely scraping by (which is the usual sign of narcissism too), but dark empath narcissists can live like their followers, in poverty, giving and giving, and sacrificing, just to get followers' undying devotion. 

Trust should only be metered out a little at a time, and depending on how a person is behaving. Being aware that real empathy is expressed mostly with continued eye contact, with feeling your feelings, and soothing is definitely useful to know, but like anything, only up to a point. While dark empaths aren't very common, also remember that narcissism is on the rise in the Western world, which means more dark empaths, even if the percentage of them isn't higher. 

Most of all, any relationship (aside from a boss at work) that requires lots of submission is not healthy and probably will hurt you greatly in the end. Which, of course, means resisting forgiving and forgetting to the extent where you are back in a relationship with them, resisting fawning and submitting when people are raging, demanding, abandoning, cruel, and commanding, and where it is obvious that they only want power, control and domination over you. The relationship is just a "throw-away" in those cases, for them.

All of this, of course, means resisting being a fawning submissive follower of their dubious and diabolical authority.    

REAL EMPATHY CREATES LONG LASTING RELATIONSHIPS
HEALTHY RESPONSES, AND CONTENTMENT

Narcissists tend to discard empaths and prefer other narcissists be their main personal relationships (they love mirrors), and now there is research to back it up (and another link). 

I'm not sure how that works long term, but perhaps with no one bothering them about ethics, which empaths would speak to them about, and hold them accountable for, perhaps on their own they lie to each other, stab each other in the back, and somehow tolerate it all as long as they are loyal to one another and there is a prize? It's something I do not care to study, frankly. In survivor forums I hear the worst stories, primarily of elder care, but maybe the rest of the time they are having a ball, living it up, idealizing each other in the most syrupy ways imaginable? 

So where do the narcissists discarded empaths go? 

My feeling is that they end up with other empaths. This is what happened in my own life. I became educated in the Cluster B Personality disorders (at the suggestion of a domestic violence therapist), and to some degree I can see them a mile away and avoid them.

However, I was almost fooled by a construction worker (who was working for a friend at the time). I wanted to hire him. But something did not seem right about him, or his proposals, and he was shutting down my voice and insisting that I needed to trust in him. Most of my experiences with construction workers is that I ask questions, and they answer. If I had concerns, they'd explain in detail how they tackled the project. This guy was, in his own polite way, telling me constantly to shut up, to just put my faith in him and to stop questioning him. One evening I just wasn't feeling right about how I was being treated and I looked him up on the internet and found that he had an arrest and prison record a mile long. Good thing he didn't have an alias too. And my friend fired him once he found out what I found out. 

So, my ability to sense narcissism or psychopathy is not full proof. But apparently it is enough in terms of my close personal relationships. My relationships now are with the kinds of people I always wanted to be around and with. I always had really close girlfriends growing up, and that is what I modeled in seeking other relationships. I was fooled a bunch of times (especially the love bombing stage), because I was not studying narcissism enough. I only knew the basics - narcissists get enraged when criticized; they are preoccupied with fantasies of power, success and money to the exclusion of other things; they believe they are granted special entitlement (while other people have to follow rules and laws); and they act grandiose. However I didn't know about covert narcissism, the very common brand of narcissist who isn't particularly grandiose outwardly, and that's where I messed up in my life. I also didn't know about gaslighting (even when I was experiencing it constantly), and I didn't know that the silent treatment was pretty exclusive to them if it lasted longer than 24 hours. In fact, I didn't know much about any of it, certainly not enough to make a difference in my life. And so narcissists slipped under my radar quite a lot, and created a great deal of havoc, messed with my head, messed with my career and my life, and even stole from me.

Had I studied it as diligently as I do now, my whole adult life would have probably been like it is now. I regret that I didn't study it much earlier.

I knew my closest girlfriends and my father were very different people from the kinds of aggressive personalities I was dealing with, but I didn't understand what made them different, and I was under the wrong impression that narcissistic personalities were actually more in the majority instead of in the minority. In other words, I thought that empathetic people were in a crushing minority, barely hanging on, barely heard, barely considered, being replaced with people with much darker traits. 

So the fact that I was able to get out of the company of narcissists and their power trips entirely could be luck, or it could be that their personality types are in a significant minority, and maybe it is just the same "birds of a feather flock together" phenomenon that happens when "like" people come together. 

One thing about empathy is that you are understood on a deep level. I do think and feel that it can create intuitive or perhaps even a psychic connection with others. A deep understanding of how others feel, respond and what they are going through in their lives means that you won't hurt each other. What hurts them hurts you too, and not just on some sort of psychic feeling level

One of the big ways you can destroy relationships is by breaking the trust between you. Undermining someone's trust who you deeply care about is a nightmare for you. I'm of the opinion that trust can never be repaired once it is broken. No person can change enough of who they are to ever be a reliable "person of trust" again.

So when you are in a mutually trusting relationship, you understand that. You do everything you can to keep the trust alive so that it can continue to be a deep relationship that you both can rely on. It is probably built in to our DNA to some degree so that we can survive as a tribe, or raise crops together, or hunt together.  

Narcissists don't do that. When narcissists break the trust and hurt you a great deal, as much as they possibly can hurt you, with knowledge they have gleaned about you and your vulnerabilities, and in ways they know will garner the most pain for you, they are also hell-bent on destroying the trust between you. They make it very, very plain that they don't care about you a bit. And, of course, they destroy the trust over the most inconsequential things usually - however it's usually not about the thing they are raging about; it is really their insecurity that you are not being submissive enough to them, doing what they tell you to do, that you are not seeing them as "the boss" or in an elevated way, and saying what they tell you to say (another thing you learn when you study narcissism).

It's easy to get in a retaliatory mindset when they attack you so many times in an egregious unprovoked way and are willing to lose the trust entirely that you used to have in them. They care a great deal of keeping up a public image that is not even true to who they are in private (common), but have no trouble smashing up your image even if they are using lots of lies to do it. It's disgusting. Unprovoked attacks do the opposite of what they want: it shows very little integrity such that you don't respect them and definitely do not want any part in idealizing them or "following them" again.

They throw a lot of rage-bombs at you that you don't deserve just because they are having a crisis about their image. They devalue you, insult you, destroy the bond between you, destroy the trust that you used to have in them, for no apparent reason you can understand (unless you study narcissism). And in an impulsive retaliatory mindset you might throw some bombs, or counter manipulations, back at them to get them to stop, that break their trust in you too. It's called the war at home for a reason. What it accomplishes in the end is that you don't trust them and they don't trust you. You could have just as easily have achieved the same end by walking away from each other and agreeing never to bother each other again. 

In truly empathetic relationships the war at home simply doesn't happen. That means relationships can go deep. It is because you aren't trying to protect yourself from narcissistic attacks, which, as I said can be so small and ungrounded that it is impossible to tell what narcissists will do next. That means with true empaths you can be your authentic self. Self defense isn't necessary. Trying to figure out the next head game or blame game isn't necessary either. Roles aren't required which is very freeing and feels boundlessly loving, peaceful and appreciative. Gaslighting doesn't happen because no one is trying to control the other person (what they say, what they do, and how they behave is up to the other person - and empathy always turns them towards intimacy and empathy rather than domination and control).

Boundaries of ethics and morality also keeps you respecting each other, which is something you can never, ever experience with narcissists no matter how hard you try because they are continually sacrificing ethics and morality to get narcissistic supply.

It's really a night-and-day difference. 

What it has created in my own life are meaningful long lasting relationships, some that date back to high school and have evolved over the years, and most of all peace. I feel I can open my heart more too, and be vulnerable because empathy allows it. Being vulnerable used to frighten the hell out of me with the exception of my father and the friendships I made along the way. In the present day, being vulnerable means being able to tell the truth - people who want to live in the truth want you to speak the truth.

Narcissists who want to keep a lie going about themselves or about one of their henchmen or about one of their cherished beliefs, will punish you or rage at you for telling the truth. 

In contrast, perspectives with empaths are often open rather than closed. In other words, it's about exploring each other's perspectives rather than fighting about whose perspectives are right or wrong. Confirmation bias is a lot less of an issue. 

I remember asking my husband what he thought the world would be like if narcissists had no power to invade nations, to do school shootings, to rob other people, to rape land for personal gain, to become the abusive Mr. Hyde with their families while spending most of the day outside the home being nice to strangers, and so on ... 

And he said, "The world would be a paradise." In other words: nothing ugly, nothing sclerotic, no drivers cutting you off, no mates having sex on their spouses behind their back, no more child abuse, no more senseless shootings, no more invasions, probably no need for mind altering drugs because your mind would be content with the paradise you were living in. 

What I'm about to say next may seem a bit "far out" for some people, but many of us in the world who have been beaten down in life still get out of bed with hope, grace, and dreams of a better future. 

Here it goes:

I have been blessed to have gotten so many of my inspirations for art and writing from dreams. In fact, most of my inspirations come from dreams. I wake up in the morning and get to work on what I've seen or heard in these dreams.  

It would seem that J.R.R. Tolkien may have been inspired by dreams too. There is a lot of wisdom in his books, especially from Gandalf, Galadriel and some of the hobbits, and a lot of fantastical happenings and beings as well (which are what dreams are made of: fantasy is inevitable in dreams, and to some extent hope too). And then there is even some seeing into the future which may be the hope part of the subconscious: some warnings about the mechanized world (Mordor) taking over the natural world (Lothlorien, Rohan, Hobbiton, Gondor, and so on). The push into the mechanized world are largely made possible by not-too-intelligent, and largely self serving Orchs. Orchs run machines all day, and are fodder for Sauron's war, and so they don't have good lives and no one is promoting their intelligence to improve their lot. Thus in wars they get killed with more frequency. They don't even have good dental work if we look at how they are portrayed in moving picture series. They are kept stupid for a reason, and they can always be defeated even when their numbers greatly out-number the elves, dwarfs, hobbits, and men. And then of course, there are a lot of references to addictions in Tolkien's work: addictions to powers, to revenge and sadism, to the thought of everlasting life, to substances and even to jewelry (the rings). And of course, submission has a role in the story too, and how submissive should you be to rulers who are focusing on issues that are leading kingdoms astray, and are destructive in all of the ways I mentioned in this paragraph.

I have had dreams about Tolkien's Middle Earth myself, dreams that altered the story slightly, or that continued after Galadriel left with Frodo, or where I am a character in the story. Not of my own choice, mind you. The most lucid dreams have a life of their own. 

But I also have dreams that are entirely my own, or are just ever so slightly influenced by someone else's art or perspectives.

Anyway, one of the dreams I had was during the height of experiencing narcissistic abuse - I was being tortured over not being submissive to a series of lies. This was the dream:

The dream concerned two very tall beings that I met in the forest. One was female and the other a male. They looked sort of human except they were twice as tall as I was, with long white hair cut in a "V" streaming down their back, past their waist. Some other differences: they had very wide flattened foreheads, where their foreheads did not slope back like present day humans. In other words, there was quite a bit more brain-matter than present-day humans as well. Their eyes were also big, and somewhat slanted.

When I looked at them, I could feel more empathy emanating from them than I felt in my entire life. I felt a relief that I had never felt in my life also, and I started to cry, thankful that they were there, and the male said, "You are worth saving. Follow us. We have some medicine that will take care of that." 

So I followed behind them in a wooded forest where the trees were quite substantial, larger than the usual forests I visited during my waking day time hours. As I said, these human-like beings were huge and it was hard for me to look down at the path because I wanted to study them like an artist would, to look thoroughly at their features, and to know who they were as beings. 

They had me sit in an organically styled chair that had a big red cushion for a seat, and they gave me the medicine in my arm - it was a shot. As I was waking up, I could actually still feel the shot on a physical level for quite awhile, a minute even. 

In my grogginess when I first knew I had exited a dream, I thought, "Is that medicine to help me from feeling sad? Is that what humans are evolving to? Can we please just evolve into that sooner rather than later? Are we capable of it?" 

Anyway, I still have a tendency to discount my dreams as "just dreams" even though they have given me so much inspiration. I should always be grateful that I have them, right? Not everyone has them, and certainly not everyone has, or remembers, so many lucid dreams. But then the "lower thoughts" roll in: "Oh, it was just a dream. Now I have to deal with the real circumstances, as awful as they are." But on the other hand, like Tolkien, I had a dream of what humans could be, given enough time, and generations, and wisdom enough to give up on anything that runs contrary to empathy. 

As in Tolkien's Middle Earth, we are at a crossroads. We can keep going in the direction we are going with thick low black clouds rolling in (something I really saw: they were the result of fires burning in the west, and looked other-worldly, not anything I ever saw before, very ominous and acrid, effecting my lungs, something that the fantastical realm of Mordor might produce, but was real instead, something that alarmed me greatly and made me realize that we are on the brink of disaster with climate change and creating an earth that may not be inhabitable to us any more). But we are also at a crossroads with the other things that Tolkien brought up: over-building, over-mechanization, greed, invasions, wars, how we treat each other, narcissistic concerns, addictions to things and people who are unhealthy, etc.

Whether we decide it with a war as all-involving as the Siege of Gondor, or solve it by slow evolution, or just die in what we have created, is the gargantuan issue of our day. 

I also look at Putin's invasion in this light too. It could turn into a world war, and if Belarus and China get involved, it is likely to end up that way. There is not a speck of empathy in invading a country, none, and it is pointless too, because as soon as fossil fuels start to be in short supply, or another type of energy takes over, Russia will lose then, at that later time. The bombing of people's houses and businesses, the raping, the intentional killing of children, the atrocities, the forced evacuation of citizens to Russia, it's all a devolution away from empathy and our higher selves. And even if Russia, China and Belarus manage to overtake Ukraine, the Ukrainians will be trauma bonded to Russians. That's the worst possible outcome for Ukraine, and for the world (the tolerance of slavery will be an issue again), and even, in the long run, for Russia. They will not be able to win the minds of a people who have been terrorized, tortured and robbed to this extent. 

That's pretty much all I have to say today on why I'm convinced that empathy is the only road out of this mess. I got a little off-track with this post with the inspirations of dreams, but I hope I have inspired some people who read what I have to write, that empathy is the main path forward if we are to survive as a species. 

As for how to deal with the parts of the population who have very little empathy or who have none at all, I don't know how to deal with that problem except to avoid them. If we all avoid them and they can't get into positions of power, maybe that helps move our evolution forward? That's where I am in my personal journey with this problem.

But what if they are invading you and bringing a war to your home?

I do have some ideas on how to deal with school shootings and other mass murders, most of which are largely perpetrated by young men with significant narcissistic traits and who are also consumed with paranoia and prejudice (that is an upcoming post).

FURTHER READING

15 Signs You're Dealing With A Narcissist, From A Therapist - by Margalis Fjelstad, Ph.D., LMFT for Mind Body Green (note: this article discusses lack of empathy in Narcissistic Personality Disorder)

How to Spot a Narcissistic Sociopath (Is a Sociopathic Narcissist the Same Thing as a Narcissistic Sociopath?) - by Arlin Cuncic, and medically reviewed by  David Susman, PhD for Very Well Mind (note: this article discusses lack of empathy in Narcissistic Sociopaths)

How to Identify a Malignant Narcissist - by Elizabeth Scott, PhD and medically reviewed by Sabrina Romanoff, PsyD for Very Well Mind 

Lack of empathy in patients with narcissistic personality disorder - by Kathrin Ritter, Isabel Dziobek, Sandra Preißler, Anke Rüter, Aline Vater, Thomas Fydrich, Claas-Hinrich Lammers, Hauke R. Heekeren, and Stefan Roepke for Psychiatry Research and Science Direct (professional article)

Do Narcissists Lack Empathy? It Depends - by Greta Urbonaviciute for SpSp


Narcissism is essentially a problem of lack of empathy - by Shawna Freshwater, Ph.D. for Spacious Therapy 


Cognitive Empathy vs. Emotional Empathy (Learn the differences between these two types of empathy) - by Jodi Clarke, MA, LPC/MHSP, medically reviewed by Rachel Goldman, PhD, FTOS for Very Well Mind

There Are Actually 3 Types of Empathy. Here's How They Differ--and How You Can Develop Them All (Understanding the three types of empathy can help you build stronger, healthier relationships.) - by Justin Bariso for Inc

Empathy in Narcissistic Personality Disorder: From Clinical and Empirical Perspectives - by Arielle Baskin-Sommers, Elizabeth Krusemark, and Elsa Ronningstam for National Library of Medicine

‘Dark empaths’: how dangerous are psychopaths and narcissists with empathy? - by Nadja Heym and Alexander Sumich for The Conversation

The emotional deficits associated with the Dark Triad traits: Cognitive empathy, affective empathy, and alexithymia - by Peter K. Jonason and Laura Krause for University of Western Australia and Research Gate (professional article)

Am I a Narcissist or an Empath? (Take this quiz to find out!) - Wiki How

Narcissistic Test - Psych Central

This Narcissist Test Will Tell You If Someone Has Narcissistic Tendencies - by Kelly Gonsalves and Kistina Hallett, Ph.D., ABPP for Mind Body Green

Quiz: How narcissistic are you? (quiz) - by Associate Professor Ross King, School of Psychology, Faculty of Health, Deakin University for Deakin University

Psychopath, Narcissist, Sociopath or Empath? test - All the Tests


Can a narcissist fake being empathetic? - Quora question (one of the answers is from someone diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder)

Are there ways to identify a narcissist's empathy as fake? - Quora question

Can someone have narcissistic personality disorder, but be very empathetic too? - Quora question

Note: I would not recommend taking this article seriously. It doesn't cite professional articles or studies, and can confuse readers, but I put it on the reading list anyway to stir conversation: Empathic Narcissist: What It Means, 15 Unique Traits & How to Cope with Them - by Nicky Curtis for Love Panky







Thursday, October 27, 2022

Narcissistic Abuse with Parentification and Infantilization

 

Note: I injured my hand, and I couldn't manipulate my computer art programs, so I will be uploading a picture here at a future date ...

This post will primarily cover why and how narcissists parentify minors, and why and how they infantilize adults (both partners and adult children). Another post will cover why and how alcoholics and addicts can behave somewhat similarly, and why, if they have both conditions, it can be a stand-out trait which is difficult to ignore.

PARENTIFICATION OF A MINOR

According to this Wikipedia article, the definition of parentification is:

     Parentification or parent–child role reversal is the process of role reversal whereby a child or adolescent is obliged to act as parent to their own parent or sibling.[1][2]
     Two distinct types of parentification have been identified technically: instrumental parentification and emotional parentification. Instrumental parentification involves the child completing physical tasks for the family, such as looking after a sick relative, paying bills, or providing assistance to younger siblings that would normally be provided by a parent. Emotional parentification occurs when a child or adolescent must take on the role of a confidante or mediator for (or between) parents or family members.[2][3]

In that same Wikipedia article, parentification with narcissistic parents is described as:

Narcissistic parentification occurs when a child is forced to take on the parent's idealised projection, something which encourages a compulsive perfectionism in the child at the expense of their natural development.[21] In a type of pseudo-identification, the child is induced by any and all means to take on the characteristics of the parental ego ideal[22] – a pattern that has been detected in western culture since Homer's description of the character of Achilles.[23]

Negative effects are described as (from the same Wikipedia article):

     Parentification is harmful when it is unfair and significantly burdens the child.[20] As it may be adaptive or maladaptive,[5] it is not always pathological, but its destructive form (termed destructive parentification) is linked to maladaptive parenting, child maladaptation, physical abuse, sexual abuse, behavioral problems, decreased emotionality, and poor social competence.[3][20][24] Parentified children also have a higher risk of depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, and low self-esteem.[20][24] ...
     ... A significant byproduct of parentification is losing one's own childhood.[26] The child may also drop out of school to assume the parental role.[13] In destructive parentification, the child in question takes on excessive responsibility in the family, without their caretaking being acknowledged and supported by others.[27] By adopting the role of parental caregiver, the child loses their real place in the family unit and is left lonely and unsure.[12] In extreme instances, there may be what has been called a kind of disembodiment, a narcissistic wound that threatens one's basic self-identity.[28] In later life, parentified children often experience anxiety over abandonment and loss, and demonstrate difficulty handling rejection and disappointment within interpersonal relationships.[29]

For literary examples of parentification, look to Agnes Wickfield in the novel, David Copperfield, by Charles Dickens.

Then there are the terms, "emotional incest" and "covert incest" which are often used interchangeably. 

The definition given for emotional incest from GoodTherapy.org (from the article, Emotional Incest: When Parents Make Their Kids Partners by Kathy Hardie-Williams, MEd, MS, NCC, LPC, LMFT):


     Emotional incest, also known as covert incest, is a dynamic that occurs in parenting where the parent seeks emotional support through their child that should be sought through an adult relationship. Although the effects of emotional incest can be similar to those resulting from physical incest, the term does not encompass sexual abuse.

In terms of why it happens (from the same article):

     Most often, emotional incest occurs when an adult marriage or relationship is fragile, a parent is lonely, or there is a broken family dynamic such as infidelity, mental health conditions, or addiction. One or both parents may seek to get their emotional needs met through the child instead of seeking support from adults. Sometimes a parent will undermine the other parent during an argument or separation/divorce proceedings by putting children in the middle or colluding with a child, which increases the level of the parent’s dependency on the child. The child, in turn, may become concerned about having to take sides or protect a parent. ... 
     ... Emotional incest also can impact the family dynamic as a whole. One partner typically experiences being shut out and may be denied opportunities for parent-child bonding. Additionally, other children may be neglected as the parent leans heavily on the “chosen child.”

In another article by GoodTherapy.com, the article, Enmeshment and Blurred Boundaries: Emotional Incest Explained by Fabiana Franco, PhD goes a little further in explaining how enmeshment (another kind of relationship feature that narcissists demand to feel both securely attached to their child, and also in control and in a state of domination with their child) can also lead to parentification. Here are some highlights of the article when it comes to narcissistic abuse:

     Emotional incest, also known as covert incest, has nothing to do with incestuous sexual abuse. Rather, it is an unhealthy emotional relationship between a parent and a child that blurs boundaries in a way that elevates the child into an adult role. The parent looks to the child for emotional support. In some cases, the parent also seeks practical support from the child.
     In an emotionally incestuous relationship, the child is expected to meet the needs of the parent rather than the parent meeting the needs of the child. This type of relationship, which is similar to enmeshment, is inappropriate and can be psychologically damaging for the child. ...
     ... Emotional incest occurs when the child believes they are responsible for their parent’s emotional well-being. This can happen when the parent talks to the child as though the child were an adult. The parent may request advice from the child regarding adult issues and can even place the child in the role of therapist. ...
    ... Elevating a child to the role of supporter and adult can lead to neglect and emotional abuse. A parent who is overly dependent on a child can also be critical and neglectful. Parents who have traversed or inverted parent-child roles can refuse or be unable to provide appropriate support for the child. This can result in a confusing mix of love and abuse (Hosier, 2015).
      When a parent relies on the child, the child’s needs are not being met. Children who are placed in the role of adults often do not know how to ask for help. They understand that their parent is unable or uninterested in providing emotional support, so they deny their own needs. ...
    ... Parents with narcissistic personality (NPD) may lack insight into how their behavior affects their child (Kriesberg, n.d.). They may also justify or deny their behavior and refuse to see that their child may be suffering.
     Narcissistic parents and parents who engage in emotional incest often need praise from their child. Questions such as, “Am I a good mother?” or, “How much do you love me?” can place the child in a precarious position, as the child is not allowed to complain or express their own needs. Instead, the parent is the primary one who needs care. This unspoken understanding that the child’s needs are not as important as the needs of the parent can have lasting effects and can cause difficulties in adult relationships.

There are several aspects at work when narcissists expect enmeshment with parentification with one or more of their children. 

But first, let us get to the definition of enmeshment (also from GoodTherpay.org):

     ... Enmeshment is a psychological term that describes a blurring of boundaries between people, typically family members. Enmeshment often contributes to dysfunction in families and may lead to a lack of autonomy and independence that can become problematic. ...
     ... While many families value closeness and intimacy, enmeshment goes beyond the bonds of a close family. Enmeshment may mean a parent centers their actions or emotions on the child(ren) and their successes or mistakes, attempts to know and direct all of the child’s thoughts or feelings, and relies heavily on the child(ren) for emotional support. ... 
      ... In enmeshed families, children may be brought up with the expectation that they will accede to their parents’ wishes and develop the same belief system and ideals. ...
     ... Most often, enmeshment occurs between a child and parent and may include the following signs:
- Lack of appropriate privacy between parent and child
- A child being “best friends” with a parent
- A parent confiding secrets to a child
- A parent telling one child that they are the favorite
- One child receiving special privileges from a parent
- A parent being overly involved in their child’s activities or achievements

Parentification can also occur in tandem with parental alienation. 

What is parental alienation? According to this Psychology Today article written by its staff members:

     Parental alienation occurs when a child refuses to have a relationship with a parent due to manipulation, such as the conveying of exaggerated or false information, by the other parent. The situation most often arises during a divorce or custody battle but it can happen in intact families as well.

Then there is parental alienation syndrome. According to an article by Amy J.L. Baker, aptly called Parental Alienation Syndrome, it is what can happen when a parent pressures a child to give up their other parent:

     Among the many areas of concern for social workers working with divorced or separated couples with children are two related problems: parental alienation, or the efforts on the part of one parent to turn a child against the other parent, and parental alienation syndrome, or a child’s unwarranted rejection of one parent in response to the attitudes and actions of the other parent.

Besides enmeshment and parentification, the narcissistic parent often expects:

- to dominate and control a child (even way past childhood)
- expect their child to flatter them and agree with their opinions (which is another sign of enmeshment and of exerting power and control)
- expects their child to play a role (the role is given by the parent to the child, and often means a lifelong role that the child cannot break out of unless they leave their parent)
- sometimes expects the child to "take the blame" (or the rap) when the parent commits the wrong, or when the child wants the parent to take some responsibility for the way the parent's relationships or life has worked out
- sometimes expects the child to believe, repeat and justify the known fibs of the parent.
- sometimes expects the parentified child to assist the parent in bullying, disciplining and in expecting perfection (in terms of deeds, looks, and behaviors that the parent wants from the other children in the household, but isn't getting, and looking to the parentified child to get the goal that the parent wants).
- sometimes expects the child to assist in terms of keeping the other children in the household walking on eggshells for the parent and making sure the other children in the household go along with the parent's rages being the fault of these other children in the household ( i.e. never the parent's fault)
- sometimes expects the parentified child to give up one or all of their siblings in order to serve the parent (a toxic combination of power and controltriangulation, rewards, enmeshment, playing favorites and the isolation tactic in order to get the child to submit).

All of it is held together by a kind of blackmail. The blackmail is more extreme and obvious for malignant narcissists and less extreme or obvious for communal narcissists on the whole. The black mail is more or less "You must validate me and follow my wishes at all times, or else you will be attacked like my scapegoat child or like the other children in the household." 

Usually the parentified child is awarded "favorite empathetic golden child status" or "favorite bully golden child status" depending on the parent's proclivities, and what she wants from his or her parentified child. Usually money, gifts and spending a lot more time with the parentified child is part of the mix.

One of the first ways you know that your parent expects emotional nurturing (a type of parentification) is when they look to you to tell them they are a good or great parent. If they don't get the answer they want, they withdraw either in self pity, with the silent treatment, or by overt raging and punishing you in some way. The reason they expect you to validate them as good parents can stem from:

- childhood emotional neglect, emotional or actual abandonment from a parent figure, or "insecure attachment" to a parent, all leading to the desire or entitlement to get emotional nurturance and emotional validation from their child or children instead. 

- they feel that what they want (true enmeshment and control) cannot happen when you don't prop up their ego or their entitlements to feel "grandiose" and "in charge". 

In other words, they expect their underage child to provide the emotional nurturance and supports that they did not get from their own parent or parents, which in turn can stunt the emotional growth of their child. The sad part is that this dependence can continue well into their child's adult years and old age. It can create children who "fail to launch" into true adulthood. It can also manifest as side effects in a child: crippling guilt, crippling "obligation" to serve their parent, and crippling fear (the fear of being abandoned if they do not parentify to the parent's standards). 

Narcissists are often still stuck in childhood and "child behaviors". 

The silent treatment, one of their favorite weapons, has often been described as "childish". Stealing or destroying another person's personal property (one of the favorite pastimes of malignant narcissists) is even more childish. It shows no more maturity than a very small child stealing cookies from the cookie jar and trying to get away with it.

It shows how destructive they get when they don't "get their way". "Getting their way" is very much a childhood dream of being a princess, prince, queen or king where tantrums like rage and threats are supposed to get them good results from their underling pretend-sycophant children. Contrast that with adult behavior and ways of coping: instead of the silent treatment, silent sulking, and playing the victim, the "fully launched adult" talks things out, has the ability to compromise, is capable of negotiating and listening with an open mind, is humble and is self assured enough to know that he doesn't know everything and can be open to new perspectives and experiencing things, has the strength of character and experience to know that he isn't always going to get his way, has the ability to see how he can effect others in a positive or negative way, and is grown up enough not to take opposing views as a personal insult. Instead of stealing, a "fully launched adult" will know why it is illegal and why it is hurtful, selfish, and often spiteful to steal (stealing deprives one person in order to fulfill another person). It's low, but it is also 3 year old behavior: "If Mommy doesn't give me that cookie, I'm going to steal it. If she asks me if I ate it, I'll lie." 

If you've got a genuine seven year old child trying to take care of an adult who has "failed to launch" past four years old, it's a little like the blind leading the blind. Most children are going to fail at being a parent to their parent. At best their emotions and desires will be ignored, and at worst they will be hit over having emotions. These children are likely to be taken for granted, or raged at and abused for not parentifying enough.   

If the four year old acting adult is giving the seven year old real child the silent treatment, the real child isn't going to really understand why: they are more likely to react: either an anxious-ambivalent style or an anxious-avoidant style. That is because most children who receive the silent treatment have been receiving it in similar ways most of their life (through neglect or a parent's resentment of having to raise a child). They have been receiving negative feedback, rather than soothing, since they were tiny babies. 

If the four year old acting parent is stealing or breaking the toys of the seven year old real child, the real child is not going to really understand why this is happening either. They might, in the best of circumstances, realize that it is unjust and that it hurts. 

All in all it creates a co-dependent "mess".

It definitely creates a dysfunctional and toxic family. In toxic families ruled by narcissists, you'll usually find other members who "failed to launch" as full autonomous adults too. Co-dependency is the main priority of toxic families. The other priority is "soothing the parent" rather than soothing the child. In fact, the child's feelings are often ignored in narcissistic families. Children are required to walk on eggshells around their supersensitive can-rage-at-any-moment parent, but if the child feels anything, they are told to squelch their feelings, or that their feelings are selfish and are being "used to get attention." It's normal for children to have trouble regulating their emotions and self soothing, but when the parent is worse at it than the child, it's a disaster.

And many children resent the fact that the only relationship that their parent will accept is an enmeshed, co-dependent one. Even rewarded golden children get sick of the lack of boundaries and triangulation that their parent uses to remain the number one focus. Some golden children will do just about anything for money and rewards, but they sacrifice their own well-being and many, many relationships in the process, even with their own spouse. 

In the end, the resulting co-dependency that happens over this, can create a normalization of the silent treatment, normalization of going ballistic over relatively small mistakes, stealing and breaking other people's personal property, especially if the parent looks the other way, coddles or rewards the real child. And often certain children are rewarded for being co-dependent or accepting a state of "emotional incest", and acting like the parent acts, as long as the parent doesn't have to fix the child's emotional dysregulations or rages themselves, and that the golden's rage or other outbursts go somewhere else for someone else to fix (possibly a sibling in childhood, and possibly a spouse in adulthood). 

But keeping the parent emotionally regulated and soothed isn't the only thing that their parentified child has to perform, usually. They may be called upon to take care of a younger sibling, their other parent, the parent's physical needs, health needs, psychological needs, financial needs, technology needs (like fixing a computer or resetting a home alarm system), nutritional needs and transactional needs (which can include getting on the phone with repairmen, doing grocery and bank transactions, dealing drugs at a young age for a parent's clients, being called upon by their parent to bully other family members -often called being a flying monkey). In some cases, the child may be called on to provide a parent's sexual needs, needs for sadism, or proxy raging.

Although parentification isn't child abuse per se, it often leads to child abuse. 

It also leads to stunting the child's emotional and intellectual growth. 

INFANTILIZATION OF AN ADULT

According to Wikipedia:

Infantilization is the prolonged treatment of one who has a mental capacity greater than that of a child as though they are a child.[1] Studies have shown that an individual, when infantilized, is overwhelmingly likely to feel disrespected. Such individuals may report a sense of transgression akin to dehumanization.[2]

Infantilization can happen in peer and partner relationships. In narcissistically abusive partnerships or marriages, the abuser tells his partner what to do, "how to behave", and assumes authority over them. 

In the article, The Effects & Examples of the Infantilization of Women from Study.com it states:

     The infantilize definition is when someone treats an adult as if they were a child, primarily through the use of demeaning practices. The infantilization of women is when others, usually men, treat adult women as children, most often concerning sexism and misogyny. Some common manifestations of infantilization are linguistic, such as over-simplifying explanations, using demeaning nicknames (e.g., "sweetheart" or "honey"), or suggesting that the infantilized person would not understand a topic without reason. Infantilizing behaviors can also be physical, such as pinching someone's cheek or offering a woman a hug when offering a man a handshake. The infantilization of women often also involves regulating their appearances and which social spheres they can occupy, such as what types of jobs they can hold. From a psychological perspective, someone using infantilizing behaviors conveys a sense of superiority over the other person and can cause psychological damage and is often frustrating to the infantilized person who can internalize feelings of inadequacy. ...
     ... Women have historically been infantilized in western society because their prescribed social role is lesser than a man's, rendering women lesser according to this structure and at a disadvantage to change the situation. Treating women as children is linked to objectification because it establishes an unequal power dynamic, stripping the woman of her autonomy. Often women are infantilized in the workplace because of their historical disadvantage in entering the professional realm. Many feminists have discussed infantilization as a gendered practice to illustrate how it further disenfranchises women, especially in the workplace. A seminal example of this argument is Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex, where she argues that sexist treatments of women (including infantilization) conceptualize women as "other" and men as "normal." Overall, men infantilize women more often than the opposite, but women can also infantilize other women. ...

However, it can also happen to men by their marriage partners too. It is not as common because narcissism is around 75 percent more common in men than women (male privilege or male golden child status helps to exacerbate the problem of men becoming narcissistically and arrogantly inclined), but when men are infantilized, such as when they are not in the dominant race or culture of the society, it can also make them feel as inadequate, invisible, dominated and "used" as any woman in the same position.

In the case of men, narcissistic women "use" men for money more than for sex.

A lot of divorces from narcissistic women are as hellish as divorces from narcissistic men. 

A good example of infantilization in a marriage can be seen in the movie, Sleeping With the Enemy

Then there is infantilization of adult children:

In the article, Causes Of Infantilization by Joy Youell for Better Help, infantilization when it comes to a relationship between someone who is narcissistic and their adult child looks like this:

     Infantilization happens when adults are treated like a child. This can occur, for example, when parents refuse to allow their child to grow up or when adult children treat senior parents as if they can’t make decisions on their own. Infantilization can feel demeaning, and can compromise a person’s mental health. It’s important for parents to recognize the signs of infantilization, so you can appropriately manage it in yourself or other parents. ...
     ... Some experts have closely associated infantilization with narcissism, where parents fear their children becoming adults and therefore their equals. To prevent this from happening, they attempt to stop time. Parents can limit their adult children by treating them like small children, and by treating them like a toddler or juvenile, it keeps them stuck in their youth and therefore is a safeguard for the parent to maintain control. Throughout this article, we’ll discuss some of the causes of infantilization, potential effects of infantilization, and what you can do to recognize and address infantilization if it appears in your life.  ...
     Causes of Infantilization
      The causes of infantilization can vary, but in general a person who treats someone like an infant often feels superior or needs to feel superior. Children who are now adults may find that their parents refuse to see them as such. Instead, these parents feel the need to express superiority in many ways, including micromanaging their adult children’s activities.
     Parents who exhibit narcissistic tendencies are inclined to infantilize their children because they likely see their children as an extension of themselves. A child’s independence is a threat to that relationship. Using infantilization, parents undermine that independence by doing things for their children in inappropriate ways or by trying to make their child feel incompetent when learning something new. ... 

     The article goes on to give examples of infantilization:
     Disapproval
     Interference
     Excessive Criticism
     The effects of it can add up to:
     ... For adult children, it can create a sense of dread around interacting with their parents. If the situation goes on long enough, the child may end up cutting off contact with their parents.
     
In terms of infantilizing seniors the article states:
     ... On the other end of the spectrum, seniors can become dependent on their children for care. These adult children find themselves stepping in and making decisions for their parents, and they may not even consult their parents. In the end, they treat their parents as if they are incapable of making decisions for themselves, despite the fact that they may still have a clear mind. This could make the parent infantilized.
     Parents need to be willing to address these issues with their children, reminding them that they are adults as well. If necessary, legal protections can be put in place to keep adult children from overstepping the boundaries of the relationship. ...
     
My own observation: if you are a senior, making sure you are not infantilized by your own children means not infantilizing them after they become full adults. Remember that you teach more by example than by words, and you don't want to normalize "infantilizing adults" of any age. 

Infantilization of adult children can go hand in hand with narcissistic traits too:
* perspecticide and invalidation: they deem that you are not worth listening to or hearing out because you are still being perceived as a child
* perfectionism: they deem that you are still a child who needs to know how to act perfectly, and to do things perfectly - usually for them. They deem you still need to be a parent-pleaser just like you were when you were six. In other words, they put themselves in the "teacher" position (which is annoying to any adult, even adult children). If they can't get what they want, they usually stoop to erroneous blaming and commanding behaviors to get what they want.   
* gaslighting: they treat you like an inept crazy child because you need someone (usually them) to boss you around and tell you what to do
* physical abuse: they deem that you need to be punished (to go around hurt) because you didn't act the way they wanted you to, or you didn't do what they wanted. The message is: "You need to behave yourself and the only way I know that will happen is if I hurt you!" Note: physical abuse of one adult towards another adult is illegal.
* emotional bullying: they also deem that you need to be punished (to go around hurt), but the hurt is emotional: triangulation, smear campaigns, the silent treatment, having affairs on you (if you are their spouse), only having a relationship with your other siblings (when you are their kid), circular arguments, stonewalling, a lot of attempts at trashing your self esteem. 
* Even their common statements like "You're ungrateful", "You create drama", "You brought this upon yourself" is not indicative of an adult conversation. All of their endless "behavior lessons" (when their own behaviors are hypocritical and dubious at best and incredibly evil and abusive at worst) is also just another round of infantilization.

Note: narcissists do not usually give up infantilizing you. It's how they feel powerful, dominant and in control (their unfortunate addiction). In terms of abuse, it is done by the narcissist so that they can keep assuming a role of power and control over you. It is harder for them to dominate and control you if they can't convince you that you are inept (i.e. childlike or disabled in some way). It is also how they get a grandiosity hit (again "hit" is used in the same way that the drug culture uses "hit" - i.e. taking the drug). If they get arrogant in the process of infantilizing you, you can practically bet that they are narcissists. 

If you ask them to stop with the infantilizing, and they don't, consider that they won't change and that you might want to put your attention elsewhere, on people who will treat you with respect, and as an equal.

As for other kinds of relationships: 
  
Infantilization can also happen in the work place, primarily from bosses or co-workers who are competitive, "bossy" and disparaging - it tends to happen to women more than men. 

It can happen to seniors (as in the article above).

And infantilization can happen to adults with disabilities. This means they will be trying to take away your rights more and more. They may insist on making all of the decisions for you. In order to avoid being exploited, it is important to see a lawyer.  

It can happen in a sibling relationship, especially if the narcissistic abuser is or was the golden child of your common parent and you were the scapegoat. In that case, you are infantilized in the same way that your sibling saw the parent do it to you. However, it can be quite a bit worse, and also a lot more dangerous because the parent does not see themselves as a rival to their child necessarily, as much as a sibling sees his other sibling as a rival.
     In sibling rivalry, the golden child may try to dominate you and lie about you to the parent to keep his or her status up (and to keep getting rewarded), and for your status to drop. So many of them put rewards from the parent absolutely first before any relationship with you, so that can make them dangerous as well. 
     Infantilizing can also be used by itself: to keep their status high and yours low by appearing to be ultra-competent, and you disabled and inept. 
     If your parent is heavily narcissistic, they will have created the hellish "sibling rivalry" themselves to make their children fight for their love (many children don't even realize this is going on until they are in therapy and when you begin to evaluate how your parent treated your siblings). But by the time they put your sibling first in almost all situations and transactions, usually by early childhood, and you last, it is fixed that way for life usually. If you are the parent's scapegoat, or the family scapegoat, then they are extremely unlikely to change (being able to hear anything other than their golden child's perspectives). They can be extremely cruel unless you repeat, puppet-like, that their golden child is all wonderful, all competent, all altruistic, while you are expected to self-flagellate and portray yourself as all inept and all wrong - not likely over the long term, even when your parent expects it and blackmails for it. It means that you are expected to lie about how great the golden child is even if and when they are a bully. 
     In those cases, there is nothing you can do to change their minds that you don't deserve the abuse of your sibling. They turned off your voice a long, long time ago. 
     Note: if your parent neglects that you are abused, or if your parent expects you to apologize to your abuser, you are a scapegoat of your family. Scapegoating is usually extremely dangerous because you have no advocates, no one to keep the abuse from escalating. And it can escalate very, very fast, especially if the sibling is scapegoating (treating you abusively while being nice to other people), and if they are physically abusive.  
     Also note: a parent expecting you to apologize to an abusive sibling, or arm-twisting you to do so, is also a form of infantilization and very, very common in toxic narcissistic families. Co-adults respect your decisions to separate from your sibling, no matter how uncomfortable it is for your parent. In most of these situations, holidays are split: Thanksgiving with one child, and Christmas with the other, for instance. If they insist on infantilizing you about your decisions to cut ties with the golden child sibling, and you are the family scapegoat, infantilization can mean dangerous situations coming from many directions.
     Most scapegoats leave their families because of escalating abuse, or have extremely limited contact (usually restricted to very large family gatherings, if that). 

Realize that infantilization can go hand-in-hand with parentification, and often does, causing you to feel confused and being prone to cognitive dissonance. 

If you are being "punished" in a marriage by your partner, or if you are being punished as an adult by your parents, that is almost always a sign that you are being infantilized and abused. Most domestic violence scenes have to do with both as well. 

I bet you'll be able to relate to the articles above as well as articles having to do with gaslighting, invalidation of your feelings and thoughts, walking on eggshells around your abusers rages, and other articles having to do with narcissistic abuse (found on the right column in this blog).

HOW INFANTILIZATION AND PARENTIFICATION
IS RELATED TO GASLIGHTING

In gaslighting, the main objective of the abuser is to dominate you, to obtain evermore power and control over you by trying to convince you that you are too crazy (and therefor inept) at being an adult, that you need to be told what to do, that you need to be reprimanded when you aren't doing things to their exact standards, and that you need to be punished if you act like an autonomous adult making your own decisions. 

But before they get to that point, they need to convince you that you are crazy first. And that's where the invalidation of your thoughts, feelings and experiences come in

They need to convince you that your thoughts aren't right. Phrases such as "That's not the way it happened", "You need to see a psychiatrist", "You've never been able to decipher reality from fiction", "That's conspiratorial thinking", "You can never get things right", "I'm not interested in what your thoughts are" are some common phrases.

Your feelings are also negated: "You're too sensitive", "You make a mountain out of a molehill", "If you had just done what I told you to do, you wouldn't be in pain now", "You're such a drama queen", "You really need to get a grip", "If you're going to cry, you'll get it!", "I can't stand you when you're upset", "You brought this upon yourself", "You don't feel that way! The way you really feel is -", "Oh, here we go again!" when you are upset, or when you try to bring up their abuse and, of course, "I'm not interested in what you feel".  

Your experiences are also negated: "It didn't happen that way", "Poor thing! You can't get a grip on reality", "The way it happened was - ", "If you can't agree with me on this, then I guess the relationship is over", "I don't want to hear what your experiences are" followed by "They are so boring!" or "This isn't relevant" or "Why would you think I want to hear about this?"

The reason why this is going on is that narcissists have very little empathy, and it is a power play to put themselves, their concerns, their emotions, their trials, their experiences ahead of yours. They want the attention going their way, and the inconvenience of dealing with your emotions, thoughts and experiences is irritating to a lot of them. 

They tend to be liars too. And the reason they lie is to get their own way, especially in the perspectives department. They reason that their "so-called", "lie-filled" reality needs to come before yours.

If they are being called upon to deal with your emotions, thoughts and experiences, they can discard you or at least shut your voice down. 

The reason for grooming you in this way is to get you infantilized, and hopefully parentified too: dealing with their rages by listening to why they rage: for you to take care of the issue they are raging at you about. Some of them advance to rages with threats. Often it is a blackmail maneuver, and also it is an assumption that you have empathy for them, which you probably do. The way rages relate to gaslighting is that if you don't agree to do something for them to get them emotionally regulated again, they are likely to call you crazy, and sometimes stupid as well, or at the very worst, beat you up, or run smear campaigns on you, or end the relationship with you completely.

They are all pretty predictable in this way. 

Dealing with their rages is a parentifying move. If they say they can't help but rage because you "are so --" (trying to convince you that you are the cause of their rages), watch them in public with some of the same issues. I bet they don't rage there. 

The infantilizing move, is to get you feeling incompetent enough that you will take orders from them. Infantilizing can also mean they will try to sabotage your adult dreams and ambitions, or at least try to control the details or give you lots of unsolicited advice about your career. They talk to you like you are a child who needs to learn lessons from them and to be lectured at. The worst of them try to micro-manage everything you do and say, even when it comes to your career. It is inappropriate to adult relationships. 

CONCLUSION

If you are being physically abused in addition to being infantilized, you can call a domestic violence hotline or check into a domestic violence center to assess the dangers, discuss safety plans, keeping your documents in a safe place, etc.

In another post, I will be covering parental alienation, something that often happens in conjunction with parentification and sometimes with infantilization too. 

FURTHER READING

Sons of Narcissistic Mothers (How narcissistic mothers manipulate and damage their sons.) - by 

Darlene Lancer, JD, LMFT for Psychology Today
excerpt:

     All children of narcissists suffer. Sons of narcissistic mothers suffer damage to their autonomy, self-worth, and future relationships with women.
     Narcissists lack empathy and the ability to nurture their children. They don’t see them as individuals, but as extensions of themselves. Their children’s feelings and needs are neglected and criticized, while their own take precedence. Narcissists feel entitled and insist on getting their way. They exact compliance through control, manipulation, guilt, and shame. It’s "their way or the highway,” and if you don’t oblige, they punish you with attacks, coldness, or withholding. Insecurity drives their insatiable, unrealistic needs for high regard and admiration. They take offense easily, triggering contempt and rage. Because they lack boundaries, they project—they shame and blame others for their own emotional discomfort, which they can’t tolerate. ...
     ... Just as daughters of narcissistic mothers experience their mother’s envy and competition, a narcissistic mother may be jealous of her son’s girlfriends and compete with his wife. No one will be good enough, because no one will measure up to her inflated self-image and standards. She must remain number one in his life. She may try to control and undermine his intimate relationships, criticize or disrespect his partner, or do so subtly with innuendo and manipulation. (See the movie Queen Bee.) Her son will feel hopelessly guilt-ridden and caught in the middle, trying to avoid hurting and angering his mother and partner (who may also be a narcissist or otherwise mentally unstable.) He feels guilty, is unaware of appropriate boundaries and unable to set them. ...
     ... Some sons of narcissists may develop a narcissistic personality disorder. Sons of narcissistic mothers have higher rates of narcissism. This may be because she’s more likely to idealize and aggrandize him rather than compete, as she would with a daughter.

Parentification: The Role of the Parentified Child in Narcissistic Families - by Carla Corelli for her own website
Note: this website also has other helpful articles

The Narcissist Parent’s Psychological Warfare: Parentifying, Idealizing, and Scapegoating - by Julie L. Hall, Contributor for the Huffington Post

The Real Effect of Narcissistic Parenting on Children (Narcissists raise children who suffer from crippling self-doubt.) - by Karyl McBride, PhD for Psychology Today

What is Infantilization? - by Brittany Loggins, medically reviewed by Ivy Kwong, fact checked by Aaron Johnson for Very Well Mind
excerpt:
     Infantilization is when an adult is being treated like a child, even though nothing about their mental, physical, social, or intellectual wellbeing requires such treatment.
     Oftentimes, parents are guilty of this to some degree as their children are growing up, particularly when they are teenagers and trying to forge their own path.
     That said, infantilization can also happen in both friendships and romantic relationships, especially if someone is trying to demonstrate superiority. Verywell Mind spoke with Dr. Sherry Benton, a practicing therapist and founder of digital the mental health platform TAO Connect, to find out more about what infantilization looks like and what impacts it can have.
     "Infantilizing is treating someone as less than they are," says Benton. "It is treating them as a child, a victim, and so forth."


The Infantilization of Women in Mainstream Media and Society
- by Tavisha Sood for The Verdict Online

Why Narcissistic Parents Infantilize Their Adult Children - by Kaitlyn Vogel (medically reviewed by Nathan Greene, PsyD)

Please Stop Infantilizing Me — Especially In The Workplace - by Danielle Corcione for Ravishly

Parentification and the Codependent Four-Year-Old -- by Lenora Thompson for Psych Central
excerpt:
     ... "Over thirty years later, I realized that it’s unnatural for a four-year-old to be worried about their parents’ moods. A four-year-old should be coloring pictures, dressing dollies and making mud pies. Not worrying about whether their parent is too moody to laugh or not! ...
     ... I was a mature, responsible, down-to-earth, prematurely old carbon copy of my parents. There was no 'Lenora,' per se. I was too busy taking care of them, keeping them happy, not making any waves, trying to be inaudible and invisible, playing the clown to manipulate Dad into laughter. It wasn’t really safe to become an authentic, unique, opinionated person in my own right. That came later. I finished growing up in my thirties and no longer feel incomplete, un-grown-up ...
     ... I was always around, a paying, serving, shopping, helping personal assistant ...
     ... When you finally break from 'needy' parents, they will do everything in their power to make that transition hard for you. At the very least, they’ll ruin your joy in your new life." ...

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